Best monitors currently available new

[lilwshu]

Originally Posted by aeberbach

Is it? I don't think there is a GBS-C feeding into some other panel driver in there, I think the electronics is designed for 15/31kHz. And there are 3 levels of panel, the cheapest one may well be boggo but it's the buyer's choice.

As far as I can tell from the mass of jumbled up videos etc: the IPS panel is just a generic IPS panel and controller. The “retro scaler” module is needed for 15khz inputs and is a rejigged gbs-c (see the gbs-c oled and dial that has appeared on the front).

Still no reviews of it so it might end up being good (and I might be wrong on the above) but if you’re not bothered about your display looking like an early 00s LCD “retro style” I can’t see it offering value for money.

[aeberbach]

If it's from Arcooda there is just one board. It's a LCD driver that syncs to 15kHz VGA input. At its heart is a Realtek chip like many monitors that sync to the frequencies more recent VGA computers produce, just a different part number. There's no GBS-C there - but the LCD driver board may well have come from the same factory and look similar. The control panel certainly does.

[stx2199]

the best monitors currently available for the Amiga or any other computer are those new 27 inch and 32 oled screens, not the low end monitors which some are mentioning here

ie

Dell Alienware AW3225QF
Asus ROG Swift OLED PG27AQDM

of course you need a scandoubler or some RGB 2 HDMI /Scart HDMI adapter or so

but you will get perfect blacks, perfect scroll, almost zero input lag etc

[Liqourice]

Originally Posted by stx2199

the best monitors currently available for the Amiga or any other computer are those new 27 inch and 32 oled screens, not the low end monitors which some are mentioning here

ie

Dell Alienware AW3225QF
Asus ROG Swift OLED PG27AQDM

of course you need a scandoubler or some RGB 2 HDMI /Scart HDMI adapter or so

but you will get perfect blacks, perfect scroll, almost zero input lag etc

Not sure I fancy 1024x768 on a 32" screen that cost like a small car. Sure, blacks will look amazing but it will still look like pixelated crap.

[stx2199]

Originally Posted by Liqourice

Not sure I fancy 1024x768 on a 32" screen that cost like a small car. Sure, blacks will look amazing but it will still look like pixelated crap.

yep a 32' screen is grotesque for old computers and consoles,looks so pixelated
but a 27 is somewhere OK

the ideal size is 24' for retro, but yet there are not 24 oled monitors, I'm still waiting for them, I heard the next year some 22 and 24 oled panels will be created by LG

[Kin Hell]

Originally Posted by stx2199

the best monitors currently available for the Amiga or any other computer are those new 27 inch and 32 oled screens, not the low end monitors which some are mentioning here

ie

Dell Alienware AW3225QF
Asus ROG Swift OLED PG27AQDM

of course you need a scandoubler or some RGB 2 HDMI /Scart HDMI adapter or so

but you will get perfect blacks, perfect scroll, almost zero input lag etc

Originally Posted by Liqourice

Not sure I fancy 1024x768 on a 32" screen that cost like a small car. Sure, blacks will look amazing but it will still look like pixelated crap.

Originally Posted by stx2199

yep a 32' screen is grotesque for old computers and consoles,looks so pixelated
but a 27 is somewhere OK

the ideal size is 24' for retro, but yet there are not 24 oled monitors, I'm still waiting for them, I heard the next year some 22 and 24 oled panels will be created by LG

Hold the phone guys & behave!

Get your OLED 4:3 Amiga Screen here:

https://www.checkmate1500plus.com

[Pyromania]

Back in the day I used a Sony XBR 25 inch with RGB in and the resulting video display was awesome and pixel free.

[stx2199]

Originally Posted by Kin Hell

Hold the phone guys & behave!

Get your OLED 4:3 Amiga Screen here:

https://www.checkmate1500plus.com

those are not yet available because the oled panels yet don't exists not even the ips ones , but he have a really good idea in mind

on the other way he is waiting for 4:3 panels, even harder for someone to build them...but a 16:9 panel is ok as long as you have the 4:3 option to set

[dreadnought]

Originally Posted by stx2199

but you will get perfect blacks, perfect scroll, almost zero input lag etc

...and burn-in

[Retro-Nerd]

Burn-in isn't problem anymore since LGs C9. But if you really want it, there are ways. But it takes some time.

[dreadnought]

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Burn-in isn't problem anymore since LGs C9.

https://www.techspot.com/article/284...-burn-in-test/

[Retro-Nerd]

I don't care about those tests. They are pointless for real prove on how people uses their TVs/monitors. I'm using my C9 since 4 years for everything and it's fine, not a single sign of burn-in.

[dreadnought]

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

I don't care about those tests. They are pointless for real prove on how people uses their TVs/monitors. I'm using my C9 since 4 years for everything and it's fine, not a single sign of burn-in.

Translation: I spent a lot of dough and I want to believe, so I will stick with my singular use case over a mountain of evidence, which includes tests from a respectable outlet.

And, yes, The TechSpot test is a bit of a stress-test, but actually pretty close to a real-world productivity scenario (unlike the in-famous, heavily exaggerated RTings one). So if they (a fairly pro-OLED site) saw burn in after ~9 hours of daily use after 3 months you can easily extrapolate it into your situation.

I bought a C2 about 8 months ago and it's indeed an amazing display, totally next-gen if you're coming from a plain old IPS/TN. But I only use it for TV/film viewing and some light gaming (probably not more than 5-10 hrs a week for games).

I'd love to get one for my daily driver work stuff, but I simply can not afford to gamble a ~1000 USD on the burn-in lottery. Maybe in a few years, when the monitor price drops to ~500$ level and the tech improves even more, but certainly not now.

[Retro-Nerd]

Im some month (mostly winter) i played significantlly more than 5-10 hours a week, (Retro (with CRT filters) or modern games. I don't think it's a lottery anymore. Especially when technically conservative companies like Nintendo started to use OLEDs. Combine it with normal TV/movie use and you are fine.

[TCD]

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Im some month i played significantlly more than 5-10 hours a week, (Retro (with CRT filters) or modern games.

I'll show myself out

[Kin Hell]

Originally Posted by stx2199

those are not yet available because the oled panels yet don't exists not even the ips ones , but he have a really good idea in mind

on the other way he is waiting for 4:3 panels, even harder for someone to build them...but a 16:9 panel is ok as long as you have the 4:3 option to set

Get signed up if you want one on back order. - He's managed to Kickstart 1000 units so far.

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Originally Posted by TCD

I'll show myself out

[smellysocks77]

Whats the grey screen behind the workbench called ?
Can you change the size of it or be controlled ?
Can it be hidden?
Can you change it to black ?

When connect rgb-vga to Dell P1917S for example, using Pal high res screenmode this screen is centered.
But all productivity modes I've tried with vga shifts this grey 'screen' to the left, leaving a black border on right and grey screen visible on left in relation to the main workbench window.
Overscan tool has no control over it.

See attachments.

[Jope]

I don't know its real name, so let's call it the screen border. If you have full ECS or AGA, you can use one of a multitude of borderblank commodities/patches to make it black.

[Kin Hell]

Originally Posted by Jope

I don't know its real name, so let's call it the screen border. If you have full ECS or AGA, you can use one of a multitude of borderblank commodities/patches to make it black.

Wasn't there a tool/utility by C= that allowed you to move the whole of the Over Scanned desktop settings centrally on your screen?

[Jope]

Yes, the overscan prefs can help you center the screen and resize the visible viewport, but the Amiga fills in pen 0 across the entire overscan area and you can't quite stretch the viewport to be totally to the absolute edge of the screen.

Setting the v37+ border blank bit will help, then the bits outside of the viewport will be black.