New 15kHz monitors

[A4000Bear]

I found two new LCD monitors that support 15KHz PAL & NTSC RGB through the VGA connector.
They are Philips 221S9 (21") and 241S9 (24"). They support both VGA and HDMI, and can be set to display in 4:3. There are some mild jailbars that can't be removed, and interlace jitters as expected. Otherwise they work well, even though the specs quote a minimum frequency of 30kHz.
Available from Officeworks in Australia. Don't know if they can be found elsewhere.

Here is a pic of a 241S9 displaying Sysinfo in PAL.

[fgh]

How does 50hz scrolling look? Jerky or smooth?

[A4000Bear]

Originally Posted by fgh

How does 50hz scrolling look? Jerky or smooth?

Smooth, at least in the tests I did by scrolling around using a 640x256 screen within a 1024x768 image in ppaint.

[eXeler0]

Nice,
How picky is it with the scan rate and have you tried som other screenmodes?

[Jope]

Originally Posted by A4000Bear

Smooth, at least in the tests I did by scrolling around using a 640x256 screen within a 1024x768 image in ppaint.

A good way to test for 50fps smoothness is to start pinball fantasies and check whether the tables scroll smoothly in attract mode, but any other locked 50fps scroller is fine really, many old intros have large scrollers in them too.

[aeberbach]

Thanks mate - $97! Looks like I will be grabbing the 21" version as a spare.

Also the aaudio input is standard 3.5" jack, not the USB I feared. This might be a very handy Amiga monitor indeed. (Too many soundbars are now USB only.)

[klokwirk]

Thanks for the tip. Office Works are 10 minutes away. Guess where I'm heading first thing tomorrow.

[Fuzzball]

Any idea if these are available in the UK perhaps under a different model number as some manufacturers use different model numbers for different regions for the same device.

I can find those models in the UK so hoping perhaps they are in the UK but with a different model number.

[Pierre]

Sweet! Thank you.

[Channel-Z]

I'm planning to pop into OfficeWorks tomorrow, what's gameplay like as someone mentioned earlier Pinball Fantasies?

[A4000Bear]

Originally Posted by eXeler0

Nice,
How picky is it with the scan rate and have you tried som other screenmodes?

I did some quick tests as shown below:
Double PAL = yes.
Double NTSC = yes, but only if 'VGA Only' is installed.
Euro72 = yes.
Multiscan productivity = yes
Euro36 = no
Super72 = no

[hooverphonique]

Originally Posted by Fuzzball

Any idea if these are available in the UK perhaps under a different model number as some manufacturers use different model numbers for different regions for the same device.

I can find those models in the UK so hoping perhaps they are in the UK but with a different model number.

Not available in Denmark either, as far as I can tell... Several 221V8... variants though, but don't know how similar they are..

[klx300r]

HAM & SHRES modes work?

[aeberbach]

FYI Aussies: OfficeWorks has free delivery at some price point but I was surprised they also offered free *2 hour* delivery.

[Channel-Z]

Originally Posted by A4000Bear

I did some quick tests as shown below:
Double PAL = yes.
Double NTSC = yes, but only if 'VGA Only' is installed.
Euro72 = yes.
Multiscan productivity = yes
Euro36 = no
Super72 = no

how about Amiga games in low resolution 320x240 @15KHz?

[mja65]

I had a quick play around with one in store. Pretty basic (to be expected based on the cost) and I suspect, given there’s no automatic switching in the menu, using it with both HDMI and VGA connected at the same time would be a little painful.

Personally I’d be looking around for second hand Dells which can be found a lot cheaper (I paid $10 for one a couple of weeks ago).

[simokun]

Thanks A4000Bear for reporting

It would be very useful to update one of these lists (both?):
http://15khz.wikidot.com
https://github.com/planeturban/15khz

unify them? ... searching in two places is never convenient

[Jope]

Well the if the github one is missing some from wikidot, you can fork, update, create a pull request..