Impressive 13kB Quake demake

eXeler0 · 11 June 2024, 22:49

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That sort of detail level and asset size would be ideal for a more playable Amiga "port" ;-)

And ye, it can be played in a browser:
https://js13kgames.com/games/q1k3/index.html

While the video is new the game is not, theres a "making of" page from 2021 here:
https://phoboslab.org/log/2021/09/q1k3-making-of

gimbal · 12 June 2024, 00:34

Full source here: https://github.com/phoboslab/q1k3/tree/master/source

It is impressive, but it does use WebGL so no software rendering routines in there like the original Quake

Karlos · 12 June 2024, 10:56

I think software rendering code would probably take more than 13 KB on it's own.

TCD · 12 June 2024, 11:06

"One of the more popular first person shooters to launch in the... eh.. 80s"

At least look it up before uploading a video about it.

pandy71 · 12 June 2024, 17:29

13kB but libraries are like half gig or more... this is common nowadays - code is few kB but required environment is gigabyte or more...

TCD · 12 June 2024, 17:49

For a FPS that really only uses 96k I'd still recommend to check out .kkrieger by .theprodukkt from 2004: https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=12036

Karlos · 12 June 2024, 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by pandy71

13kB but libraries are like half gig or more... this is common nowadays - code is few kB but required environment is gigabyte or more...

Two gigabytes, you say?

paraj · 12 June 2024, 18:44

For size optimized compos you obviously always need to take the platform into account. 13K JS is not like 3.25x Amiga 4K (and nobody will complain about you using e.g. graphics.library for the latter). .kkrieger is allowed to use 3d HW and windows, but that doesn't make it less impressive. Using JS and webgl doesn't detract from the achievement.

Karlos · 12 June 2024, 18:59

But it's fine for the 4GB and under entry, right?

Bruce Abbott · 16 June 2024, 01:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimbal

Full source here: https://github.com/phoboslab/q1k3/tree/master/source

It is impressive, but it does use WebGL so...

https://get.webgl.org/

Quote:

Hmm. While your browser seems to support WebGL, it is disabled or unavailable. If possible, please ensure that you are running the latest drivers for your video card.

Not impressive. The original Quake only needed a Pentium 75, 8MB RAM and a standard VGA card. This '13kB Quake' is a fraud.

Thorham · 16 June 2024, 01:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Abbott

Not impressive.

grelbfarlk · Yesterday, 06:25

Should be able to run on an unexpanded 256k A1000.

They could switch to text mode for enemies. With a copper background.

If not, add DSPs as needed until it runs.

gimbal · Today, 00:28

I think a noteworthy detail has not been mentioned yet; It's 13kb when gzipped. The competition puts a limitation on the download size, not on the code size

d4rk3lf · Today, 00:36

I remember very similar german demo project, back in 2005.
It's called kkriger, and it was a 3D demo shooter in only 96KB

I remember starting it back then on Pentium 3, on local TV I worked... it took like 5 minutes until it unpack into memory.
Still.. very very impressive... and it's really amazing procedural engine.. and it looks very good.

Here is how it looks

[ Show youtube player ]

More info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.kkrieger

11 June 2024, 22:49	#1
eXeler0 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 2,974	Impressive 13kB Quake demake [ Show youtube player ] That sort of detail level and asset size would be ideal for a more playable Amiga "port" ;-) And ye, it can be played in a browser: https://js13kgames.com/games/q1k3/index.html While the video is new the game is not, theres a "making of" page from 2021 here: https://phoboslab.org/log/2021/09/q1k3-making-of Last edited by eXeler0; 11 June 2024 at 22:57.

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12 June 2024, 00:34	#2
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,969	Full source here: https://github.com/phoboslab/q1k3/tree/master/source It is impressive, but it does use WebGL so no software rendering routines in there like the original Quake

12 June 2024, 10:56	#3
Karlos Alien Bleed Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: UK Posts: 4,431	I think software rendering code would probably take more than 13 KB on it's own.

12 June 2024, 11:06	#4
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,942	"One of the more popular first person shooters to launch in the... eh.. 80s" At least look it up before uploading a video about it.

12 June 2024, 17:29	#5
pandy71 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: PL? Posts: 2,875	13kB but libraries are like half gig or more... this is common nowadays - code is few kB but required environment is gigabyte or more...

12 June 2024, 17:49	#6
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,942	For a FPS that really only uses 96k I'd still recommend to check out .kkrieger by .theprodukkt from 2004: https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=12036

12 June 2024, 18:44	#8
paraj Registered User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Denmark Posts: 1,201	For size optimized compos you obviously always need to take the platform into account. 13K JS is not like 3.25x Amiga 4K (and nobody will complain about you using e.g. graphics.library for the latter). .kkrieger is allowed to use 3d HW and windows, but that doesn't make it less impressive. Using JS and webgl doesn't detract from the achievement.

12 June 2024, 18:59	#9
Karlos Alien Bleed Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: UK Posts: 4,431	But it's fine for the 4GB and under entry, right?

Yesterday, 06:25	#12
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,960	Should be able to run on an unexpanded 256k A1000. They could switch to text mode for enemies. With a copper background. If not, add DSPs as needed until it runs.

Today, 00:28	#13
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,969	I think a noteworthy detail has not been mentioned yet; It's 13kb when gzipped. The competition puts a limitation on the download size, not on the code size

Today, 00:36	#14
d4rk3lf Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Novi Sad, Serbia Posts: 1,693	I remember very similar german demo project, back in 2005. It's called kkriger, and it was a 3D demo shooter in only 96KB I remember starting it back then on Pentium 3, on local TV I worked... it took like 5 minutes until it unpack into memory. Still.. very very impressive... and it's really amazing procedural engine.. and it looks very good. Here is how it looks [ Show youtube player ] More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.kkrieger

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