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Old 07 June 2023, 03:14   #121
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From the handshake coin logo to the certificate to the eagle mounting the world graphic in the testimonials..... the whole thing is tone deaf and embarrassing. The European Super League fiasco was hilarious but this takes the biscuit!

Agreed!


Hay Reido, How's everything going over there. I really pray that all is well in the land of Carrickfergus . U.S. here.... I stand with Ireland!
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Old 07 June 2023, 03:15   #122
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From the handshake coin logo to the certificate to the eagle mounting the world graphic in the testimonials..... the whole thing is tone deaf and embarrassing. The European Super League fiasco was hilarious but this takes the biscuit!
What's the European Super League fiasco?
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Old 07 June 2023, 04:21   #123
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What was the European Super League?
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Old 07 June 2023, 04:25   #124
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Not wanting to start a conspiracy theory, but.....

Is this Kickstarter from the real David Pleasance? I have backed a previous Kickstarter by him and this is not from the same account.

Original Kickstarter Profile: https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/djp21
New Kickstarter Profile: https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/amigaglobalalliance

Iirc, I think in both cases, the images of DJP were lifted from the video "From Bedrooms to Billions: The Amiga Years!" (2016)
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Old 07 June 2023, 04:38   #125
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"Is this Kickstarter from the real David Pleasance? I have backed a previous Kickstarter by him and this is not from the same account."

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Old 07 June 2023, 06:58   #126
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Yeah do NOT bash the supporters of this. it is enterly up to them.
I however. no. will not do it.

and it also ironically means that the list of people doing help etc. will not include me. meaning it will not be a complete list. so the idea falls all through.
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Old 07 June 2023, 07:06   #127
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and it also ironically means that the list of people doing help etc. will not include me. meaning it will not be a complete list. so the idea falls all through.
You're advising against this, so you're advisor.

If I'd be in DP's place, I'd put you on the list.
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Old 07 June 2023, 07:19   #128
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Chucky for the win!
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Old 07 June 2023, 07:34   #129
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Please, let's not bash people for supporting what they see worth their money even if it is not what you deem valuable. There's no need to do that.

Also, everything 7-Zark-7 said. Thank you EAB and the whole community.

I think there is a need to do that. Call it enlightening people. If still people thing this is a good idea, then, fine.
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Old 07 June 2023, 08:16   #130
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What's the European Super League fiasco?
Just a football analogy
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Old 07 June 2023, 08:17   #131
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What was the European Super League?
Just a soccer analogy
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Old 07 June 2023, 08:46   #132
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Not wanting to start a conspiracy theory, but.....

Is this Kickstarter from the real David Pleasance? I have backed a previous Kickstarter by him and this is not from the same account.
Scamception?
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Old 07 June 2023, 09:05   #133
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I think there is a need to do that. Call it enlightening people. If still people thing this is a good idea, then, fine.

Please read carefully. There sure is a need to highlight the shortcomings of this money-raising scheme, but no need to bash anybody for choosing to support it
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Old 07 June 2023, 10:13   #134
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Yet there are 47 backers with 1/5 pledged...
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Old 07 June 2023, 10:26   #135
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Please read carefully. There sure is a need to highlight the shortcomings of this money-raising scheme, but no need to bash anybody for choosing to support it

Ok Sure.
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Old 07 June 2023, 11:13   #136
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If someone has £38 to throw away on a glorified WordPress blog, then they're in a better position than me. Good luck to them, I say.
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Old 07 June 2023, 11:21   #137
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For clarity, I never suggested naming and shaming any individual. That would be wrong. I intended to simply question what type of Amiga user may have backed this. I would be surprised if any of the 45 were regulars in the Amiga forums and socials.
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Old 07 June 2023, 12:55   #138
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For an extra £25 you can upgrade to the Amiga Galactic Alliance with loads more downloadable content and Much Much more! Please be aware all content is free from copyright and authorisation by content source, user experience may differ depending on your home planet.
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Old 07 June 2023, 13:33   #139
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I agree with most of the sentiment here. It appears from the outside as a scheme with potentially murky motivations (i.e. money).

I would have less of a problem with the whole thing if DP was already a contributing member of the current Amiga community - then I would question his motives less. If he had been contributing to the scene driven by the love of the Amiga for years then it wouldn't look so much like a cash grab. However, it appears as though he's spotted the popularity of the Amiga and thought "I could make some money here".

That's what makes the current Amiga scene so great. People are out there making amazing things just for the love of the platform - and not for cash. Just look at PiStorm for example.

The whole thing just feels embarrassing and unneeded. There are plenty of ways for people to financially support creative people nowadays. The whole subscription thing feels like the wrong direction to go in. If anything, I could see it driving the scene apart, as you'll no doubt get certain alliance members who are unhappy they are not getting the same slice of the pie as others.

I don't have anything personal against DP but let's hope the whole thing just disappears.
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I'd also like to know what music exactly is on "Everybody's Girlfriend" Music Album - wonder if theres no track listing because they know the Amiga community will kick up a stink when they see their fav Amiga musicians tracks being used with no credit....
heres a youtube video about the "everybody's girlfriend" album, its his album that he now gives away with all his kickstarter projects, i have a cd of it somewhere. total rubbish IMO

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