15 January 2020, 15:21 | #21 |
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Basically what everyone's said.
For A500 games:
ACA500Plus does all it can to maximize WHDLoad compatibility however it's still not 100% which is why I don't recommend an A500/+ as a WHDLoad machine. |
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It's not limited to 3D games either - many games where a lot happens or there's heavy AI also benefit from more CPU speed. Games like Settlers, Syndicate, Theme Park (though I much prefer the AGA version) and Dune 2 are all 2D OCS/ECS games that are made more playable with an accelerator. Quote:
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15 January 2020, 16:08 | #23 |
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Sorry that's not alot of games and the majority of games show no speed increase on higher CPUs I've asked about this before and been told it's because of the Blitter wait but I don't know.
But its of no interest to me but suggesting a faster CPU is required at extra cost is misleading. |
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They were a few games picked off the top of my head, there are many more, but they're also some of the most popular games on the Amiga, so they are worth more consideration than any of the bland arcade-style shooters or platformers. For example, if a Megadrive emulator worked great for most games but Sonic didn't run well, most people wouldn't consider it much good.
Of course, games that are coded to an exact framerate won't show any difference, and in many cases will slow down, as you correctly point out, due to additional blitter waits introduced by WHDLoad. So, you might be better off with a Gotek instead of a hard drive & WHDLoad for some games if all you have is a standard A500 with some added RAM. |
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Cool .
But while on the subject I will just ask again if anyone wants to answer, why don't ST ports fly on higher CPUs as there pretty much CPU based rather than Blitter (Not just WHDload also Floppy etc) |
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Probably for the same reason lots of Amiga games don't - locked framerates. They're the type of games that get faster when you put a machine in NTSC mode (or slow down in PAL mode if they're NTSC games).
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I'm not aiming at 100%, 95% perhaps. Also, other folks said I could just use HDD installs, so it does not need exactly to be WHDLoad. I thought about A1200 but the costs start to spiral this way and there's a risk of getting a dodgy one... |
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15 January 2020, 20:13 | #29 |
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What games? Stuttering???
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HDD installs will get you around 50% of the games you’re looking to play (at best). The aim should definitely be WHDLoad if you’re hoping for 95%. |
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ACA500plus can optionally convert 0.5M + 0.5M config to 1M chip as long as Agnus is 1M chip RAM capable. Without any hardware modifications.
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Can I not combine these two methods, ie use HDD for the WHDLoad games which may not work? |
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15 January 2020, 22:22 | #34 |
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WHDload is the most popular with good reason but there are other methods and you can use any method you want i.e combined.
My A600 is probably still 80% JST and then WHDload and other for the rest. |
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Just an out there thought... and maybe not a popular one for some but...
My MIST is a great little gaming device and works well with both WHDLoad and ADF files. I've managed to get nearly all OCS, ECS, & AGA games working and it can be set to run at more or less stock A500 speeds or something similar to an 020 @ 33MHz A1200. It was more expensive than my ACA500plus but much cheaper than an expanded A1200. I use it more often than my expanded A500+ :-) |
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(Rev 5 is a different story, involving cutting traces, etc.) Honestly if you're willing to spend the extra money (which amounts to the money you'd spend going out to eat at a decent metropolitan restaurant) you will be glad you got the ACA because it leaves room for further expansion and includes a *TON* of quality-of-life features that no other device has. |
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