Amiga games changes after HD Instlalation?

Seiya · 08 July 2019, 09:38

i don't remember if exists another tread like this, but i'd like to know if there is Amiga games that after Harddisk installation change in better from floppy version. Honestly i don't see difference, but maybe some rarities that make difference there is.

gimbal · 08 July 2019, 09:44

Well define "better", no disk swapping and faster loading times makes a 100% improvement

I can't recall reading about a game which actually changes in gameplay after HD installing it.

Seiya · 08 July 2019, 10:02

i intended some more cut-scenes or better animation or more musics and sounds effects.

DamienD · 08 July 2019, 11:13

I think Rise Of The Robots [AGA]; when installed to hard drive there's a long intro that you don't see when playing from floppy disk.

Daedalus · 08 July 2019, 12:34

I don't remember any improvements other than the obvious loading times etc., but I do remember one that lost something: When I installed Flashback to hard drive back in the day (not using WHDLoad), I found it no longer played the cutscene animations, instead replacing them with a single line of text (e.g. "You picked up the holocube"). I'm pretty sure that was just down to a memory issue though, as the animations work fine on a more recent WHDLoad installation, and I don't think I had any extra RAM in my A1200 at that time.

Solo Kazuki · 08 July 2019, 12:35

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Originally Posted by Seiya

i intended some more cut-scenes or better animation or more musics and sounds effects.

Maybe few games, but playing from HD is much more comfortable. Playing some multidisk games from floppy is real nightmare. And remember there are some games which are HD/CD only.

Solo Kazuki · 08 July 2019, 12:37

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Originally Posted by Daedalus

I don't remember any improvements other than the obvious loading times etc., but I do remember one that lost something: When I installed Flashback to hard drive back in the day (not using WHDLoad), I found it no longer played the cutscene animations, instead replacing them with a single line of text (e.g. "You picked up the holocube"). I'm pretty sure that was just down to a memory issue though, as the animations work fine on a more recent WHDLoad installation, and I don't think I had any extra RAM in my A1200 at that time.

CTRL+C switch on/off these anims. It's weird because AFAIK they should be off on floppy and on on HD.

Seiya · 08 July 2019, 13:18

i want to see again "Rise of the Robot AGA". Yes of course from hd is better because we can avoid swap disks. I remember old review about Indy 4 that said on floppy version you can not enjoy with imuse system, but with HD installation, maybe, you can. My bad surprise when i see that also installed on hd there is nothing difference from floppy version apart to play without change every time various disks

Hewitson · 09 July 2019, 04:26

I don't really understand why you'd expect the HD version to offer anything additional. All it's doing is using the same data that's on the disks.

Seiya · 13 July 2019, 11:49

boh, because i thought that on HD some file could be decompressed in more large file with more detail, more animation and better audio. But maybe this thing need to have 2 different version of the same game: floppy and hd version.
however i saw that also Rise of the Robots ECS/OCS ha introduction that is not present in the floppy version.

Solo Kazuki · 13 July 2019, 12:20

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Originally Posted by Seiya

boh, because i thought that on HD some file could be decompressed in more large file with more detail, more animation and better audio.

Now that You mention i remember that Captive 2: Liberation have choice of texture quality and quantity during installation. Probably playing from floppy You have base (worst and less) textures, when installing You can have better and more textures.

roondar · 13 July 2019, 12:47

I'm pretty sure some small number of installs fix bugs or add missing images/intro's, but otherwise the answer seems to be 'no'.

On the other hand, I have seen installed versions of games perform worse than the disk version on rare occasions on my A600. As far as I've seen, the same installs on my A1200 don't suffer the same problems. Not sure why, but my guess is that it has to do with Blitter waiting being done in a different way (slower, but more compatible).

Seiya · 13 July 2019, 20:18

there is very little title that have some improve in hd version, but at least there are. however of course HD is good to avoid change of disks.

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08 July 2019, 09:44	#2
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 43 Posts: 6,991	Well define "better", no disk swapping and faster loading times makes a 100% improvement I can't recall reading about a game which actually changes in gameplay after HD installing it.

08 July 2019, 10:02	#3
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,453	i intended some more cut-scenes or better animation or more musics and sounds effects.

08 July 2019, 11:13	#4
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	I think Rise Of The Robots [AGA]; when installed to hard drive there's a long intro that you don't see when playing from floppy disk.

08 July 2019, 12:34	#5
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,381	I don't remember any improvements other than the obvious loading times etc., but I do remember one that lost something: When I installed Flashback to hard drive back in the day (not using WHDLoad), I found it no longer played the cutscene animations, instead replacing them with a single line of text (e.g. "You picked up the holocube"). I'm pretty sure that was just down to a memory issue though, as the animations work fine on a more recent WHDLoad installation, and I don't think I had any extra RAM in my A1200 at that time.

08 July 2019, 13:18	#8
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,453	i want to see again "Rise of the Robot AGA". Yes of course from hd is better because we can avoid swap disks. I remember old review about Indy 4 that said on floppy version you can not enjoy with imuse system, but with HD installation, maybe, you can. My bad surprise when i see that also installed on hd there is nothing difference from floppy version apart to play without change every time various disks

09 July 2019, 04:26	#9
Hewitson Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 41 Posts: 3,773	I don't really understand why you'd expect the HD version to offer anything additional. All it's doing is using the same data that's on the disks.

13 July 2019, 11:49	#10
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,453	boh, because i thought that on HD some file could be decompressed in more large file with more detail, more animation and better audio. But maybe this thing need to have 2 different version of the same game: floppy and hd version. however i saw that also Rise of the Robots ECS/OCS ha introduction that is not present in the floppy version.

13 July 2019, 12:47	#12
roondar Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,438	I'm pretty sure some small number of installs fix bugs or add missing images/intro's, but otherwise the answer seems to be 'no'. On the other hand, I have seen installed versions of games perform worse than the disk version on rare occasions on my A600. As far as I've seen, the same installs on my A1200 don't suffer the same problems. Not sure why, but my guess is that it has to do with Blitter waiting being done in a different way (slower, but more compatible).

13 July 2019, 20:18	#13
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,453	there is very little title that have some improve in hd version, but at least there are. however of course HD is good to avoid change of disks.

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