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Why don't we collate a list of "essential software" that people would need to get them started, like X-Copy, MultiDOS etc etc, and contact all the authors for permission to distribute their products on floppies to assist newcomers/returnees in their first steps?
I don't mind recycling my blank label floppies for free, but the postage would kill me financially if suddenly 100's of people started coming out of the wood work wanting this service ![]() edit - where would we stand legally for making copies of coverdisks? are the publishers still around? because the authors gave their permissions for the publishers to distribute their work effectively making it public domain. if there is no legal grey area on simply duplicating coverdisks i'm pretty sure we can cater for everything that was given away freely. |
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With the Workbench 1.3 and 2.0 disks (excluding AmigaBASIC for 1.3) having been "freed" already, I don't really see a big problem.
I mean, the WB3.0 install set was included onthe last few AmigaFormat coverCD's so how "illegal" could they've been? I seem to recall that whoever owned the Amiga IP back then, said all but the current (which was 3.1) was now legal to copy for the purpose of getting the Amiga usable, especially if you biught the computer secondhand and just needed the proper WB-environment. Could be a filure in my memorychips, though |
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All this copyright business! In all fairness, the product would be useless if most of these remained copyright as it is difficult to source originals for many things! Look at the whole business with Internet Archive...
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sadly there are businesses out there (and here on EAB) that would either try to hold EAB responsible or hunt the individual down to slap them with a nice legal letter.
Personally I think all this kickstart copyright is actually ruining a revival. open source it! or give it to Linus Torvalds ![]() but that's besides the point. We still need to stay both within EAB rules and the rules of our country. dont want anyone getting in trouble now, do we ![]() |
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I can provide this for USA members.
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And I can do it for people in Denmark, as long as my postage expenses are covered (cheap if shipped as letter).
Stuff like XCopy and Multidos is already free for download and (free) distribution, so that shouldn't be a problem if people need those to get their Amiga up and running. |
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Exactly that's the problem with those where you can still buy 'originals' still... EAB simply tries to stay out of trouble by avoiding any 'collision' with those who still sell Amiga software new (or have a license to distribute kickstart and workbench files...). Everything is allowed here exactly for that reason you mentioned. As long as those files are still sold... I hope that clears up a bit of the confusion as to why some files aren't allowed to share or offer here. |
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So, to clarify, if it's still sold, then we cant distribute it via a community service provided via EAB... but if it's not sold anymore, then it's all ok?
that sounds simple enough. should we still make the effort at least to contact authors that have unusual conditions like not charging for postage, or do you think we can just distribute it anyway unless a cease and desist request comes through? |
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I was thinking things that were available on PD disks or Aminet is assumed for distribution - however, one thing interesting is that some of them comment about not charging for distribution - so are we in the wrong to have postage covered?! hehe ...
I want to keep this legal as possible - no personal gain from this, just want to do my bit to support the community. |
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Excellent news Druid
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i cant really see a problem with cover disks as they were given away free to whoever bought the magasine they were stuck to.just a thought.
i think dir opus 4,octomed,real3d was on a cover disk etc. |
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w00t!
![]() time to get the hair dryer out on all my "blank labelled" disks.... and then verify them... good thing i have 3 external drives to do 4 disks at once ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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