10 November 2015, 17:57 | #341 |
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Thank you to Arnie and Tony. Now the blizzard is working. The system boots, but graphically is slower than cyberstorm, as well as the loading time.
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Maybe some sort of automatic switch to quickstart A1200 when Blizzard PPC rom or switch to quickstart A4000 when Cyberstorm PPC rom is selected is needed for dummies. |
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12 November 2015, 18:57 | #344 |
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Yeah, but maybe it could be restricted according to "Chipset Extra" setting!
If "Generic" than you can see all available boards in Expansion tab! (as it is now possible) If "A500" than you can see only those intended for A500 configuration! If "A1200" than you can see only those intended for A1200 configuration! ...and so on... I guess this would be possible to implement! Last edited by amilo3438; 12 November 2015 at 19:03. |
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No. Quickstart or you need to know what are you doing.
Have you already forgot that 99% of users don't care about PPC. It and any other non-m68k-AOS OS setup is a special case. You are required to know what are you doing. It has always been my goal to allow all kinds of weird options, only exception being something that simply can't work. (=would cause hardware level conflict) |
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It was just an idea in general! (I do not care anyway)
But you did not answer is it possible to implement? (I guess its because it looks like too boring task, right?) Does that also implies a good knowledge of how the emulator works!? (because it does not apply to 99% of users) Last edited by amilo3438; 12 November 2015 at 19:17. |
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2) Adding restrictions just because of PPC? It also makes no sense. 3) Current restrictions are caused by software limits, not hardware, software can change. It would become moving target: not going to happen. "No". |
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The download link for the qemu-zip file does not work...is there another source?!
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Which link are you having trouble with?
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This link from post#1:
http://www.winuae.net/files/b/qemu-uae.zip EDIT: Ok i see i Need the PPC-Core Plugin download, thanks Last edited by Darksun777; 14 November 2015 at 00:48. |
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Try the one in The Zone I'm uploading for you now.
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got it already via the PPC-Core-Plugin download link, thank you!
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Latest should be:
http://www.winuae.net/files/b/ppc_plugin.7z (QEMU 2.4 update. Includes both 32-bit and 64-bit versions) I don't know the required minimum WinUAE version for this. |
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Some benchmarks (now we have some clue what's going slow)
REAL CPU BlizzardPPC UltimatePPC.WOS ----------------------------------------------- Your PPC processor is: PPC 603E CPU Core running on : 180 MHz PPC Bus Clock is : 60 MHz Instruction Cache is : ON & UNLOCKED Data Cache is now : ON & UNLOCKED PageTable location : $45000000 PageTableSize is : 2048 KBytes Current CPU load is : 2219 Percent Current system load : 11850 Percent Now comming some PPCMath Tests....... 50M Add : 167 ticks 50M Multiply : 206 ticks 20M Sqrt() : 905 ticks 20M Rnd() : 1040 ticks 20M Sin() : 773 ticks 20M Log() : 834 ticks 50M Bounds : 236 ticks 10M Pow() : 585 ticks WINUAE BlizzardPPC UltimatePPC.WOS ----------------------------------------------- Your PPC processor is: PPC 603E CPU Core running on : 100 MHz PPC Bus Clock is : 66 MHz Instruction Cache is : ON & UNLOCKED Data Cache is now : ON & UNLOCKED PageTable location : $72400000 PageTableSize is : 4096 KBytes Current CPU load is : 0 Percent Current system load : 0 Percent Now comming some PPCMath Tests....... 50M Add : 24 ticks 50M Multiply : 24 ticks 20M Sqrt() : 2168 ticks 20M Rnd() : 308 ticks 20M Sin() : 1546 ticks 20M Log() : 2023 ticks 50M Bounds : 47 ticks 10M Pow() : 1331 ticks WINUAE CyberstormPPC UltimatePPC.WOS ----------------------------------------------- Your PPC processor is: PPC 603E CPU Core running on : 100 MHz PPC Bus Clock is : 66 MHz Instruction Cache is : ON & UNLOCKED Data Cache is now : ON & UNLOCKED PageTable location : $8400000 PageTableSize is : 4096 KBytes Current CPU load is : 40 Percent Current system load : 40 Percent Now comming some PPCMath Tests....... 50M Add : 165 ticks 50M Multiply : 166 ticks 20M Sqrt() : 2239 ticks 20M Rnd() : 371 ticks 20M Sin() : 1608 ticks 20M Log() : 2074 ticks 50M Bounds : 221 ticks 10M Pow() : 1355 ticks |
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Your tests also confirms odd speed difference between difference CPU models which makes no sense in emulation, most instructions are exact same.. Note that used QEMU version is quite old (~1years) because newer ones (at least when it was last tested few months ago) are slower and some programs started crashing.
What happens if you use different PPC models using ppc_model config entry (replace ppc_model=automatic with ppc_model=<type name>): For example BPPC config but CSPPC CPU: (ppc_model=604e_v2.4) Or some newer common PPC model, for example ppc_model=750_v3.1 (QEMU PPC models here: http://git.qemu.org/?p=qemu.git;a=bl...dels.c;hb=HEAD) FPU probably won't get any faster until there is option to use host FPU instead of softfloat library. (But use of host FPU can be difficult if PPC FPU has some special features) |
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cpu model on the BlizzardPPC configuration does change the cpu model for the test tools and they report a new cpu model, that's cool and funny. (AOS3/WarpOS) Does not seem to effect the speed of simple tests
CyberstormPPC seems to igrnore this, and the tools I tried always reported 604 (under AOS4) But here is an interesting result from SysMon/RageMem test! Emulation can't be that good |
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Thats odd. So it may not be 100% QEMU problem after all..
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Ciao Toni, Today I wanted to do a little experiment, with a software "CD/DVD-RW Burner Virtual" i created a ISO which I then formatted UDF Filesystem. Formatting finished i copied a file in this volume UDF and then mounted as a DVD on OS4.1. Started OS4.1 the new volume was seen without problems by the system, only that it is not possible to see the content or copy data because this book as we know it is set to read-only; do you have a system for access read-write on this volume UDF.
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