HOL - offline version ?!

viddi · 04 January 2007, 20:29

Hey!

It would be really cool to have the HOL-database as a complete offline catalogue.

What about a button called "Create offline HOL database" or something.
(..and the complete website is saved somewhere on hd)

So, it´s easy to get an updated offline version everytime you want one.

Ironclaw · 04 January 2007, 20:30

Yup.

Dizzy · 04 January 2007, 20:32

Hail

Ironclaw · 04 January 2007, 20:33

Well, people could then post it on other sites, that's not good.

viddi · 04 January 2007, 21:39

@ Ironclaw:

But isn´t it already possible to save a complete website with special tools?
So, posting on other sites is not the point.

Just imagine HOL and/or EAB close down and are lost forever.
HOL is fantastic, and I think it should be an offline library; e.g. on an Amiga Gaming Station!

Dizzy · 04 January 2007, 21:47

well you can grab complete site, if they are not leechprotected. I think HOL is so (you can only watch 100 games pr day, so you would have to grab it over a longer periode

viddi · 04 January 2007, 21:55

@ Dizzy:

Really? I didn´t know that I can only watch at 100 games per day.

I would even pay for a HOL-CD. But I´m afraid the HOL Team doesn´t want an offline version.

CodyJarrett · 04 January 2007, 22:14

You can browse as much as you like but once you hit an access limit you need to type a code from a picture to show that you're not a bot.

An Windows offline version is in progress but I'm not sure how far RCK has got.

viddi · 04 January 2007, 22:27

Ah...so it´s not html based?

Ultron · 04 January 2007, 22:29

I sincerily doubt anything as big as HOL's site isn't using MySQL...

It's not webcrawlable.

viddi · 04 January 2007, 22:32

Yes, I think you´re right.

RCK · 06 January 2007, 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by viddi

Just imagine HOL and/or EAB close down and are lost forever.
HOL is fantastic, and I think it should be an offline library; e.g. on an Amiga Gaming Station!

I perform daily backup of the whole abime.net server, and I don't plan to lose those ressource forever

Anyway, one offline version of HOL will definitively be created, the project is already started and will be released when it's done.
It will be one local software with auto update concept.

viddi · 06 January 2007, 00:47

Great news!
Thanks RCK and good night

P-J · 08 January 2007, 00:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultron

I sincerily doubt anything as big as HOL's site isn't using MySQL...

It's not webcrawlable.

It sure is! Obviously the 100 games limit is an issue, but if it wasn't, commanding a bot to search for a blank phrase (try it) and then spider every link (to a maximum of one level) would do it.

P-J · 08 January 2007, 00:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCK

I perform daily backup of the whole abime.net server, and I don't plan to lose those ressource forever

Anyway, one offline version of HOL will definitively be created, the project is already started and will be released when it's done.
It will be one local software with auto update concept.

Any chance you could create the raw data instead? I know if it was an 'app' I'd never use it.

Ultron · 08 January 2007, 01:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-J

It sure is! Obviously the 100 games limit is an issue, but if it wasn't, commanding a bot to search for a blank phrase (try it) and then spider every link (to a maximum of one level) would do it.

But it's database would be no longer dynamically accessible. Pretty much every link in HOl is a query to the database.

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Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	well you can grab complete site, if they are not leechprotected. I think HOL is so (you can only watch 100 games pr day, so you would have to grab it over a longer periode

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CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,162	You can browse as much as you like but once you hit an access limit you need to type a code from a picture to show that you're not a bot. An Windows offline version is in progress but I'm not sure how far RCK has got.

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viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,014	Ah...so it´s not html based?

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viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,014	Yes, I think you´re right.

06 January 2007, 00:47	#13
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,014	Great news! Thanks RCK and good night

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