Deluxe Paint IV, V removing startup dialog

bni · 06 March 2021, 13:55

Im a big fan of these classic programs.

But one thing that is always bugging me is the "Regstistered to Ian Cogins" or "For Commodore bundle only" dialog that is displayed when they start. I am using versions form TOSEC from the eab file server:

Deluxe Paint IV v4.5 (1992)(Electronic Arts)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 3)(Program)[CBM A1200 bundle].adf
Deluxe Paint V v5.0 (1994)(Electronic Arts)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 4)(Program).adf

Any assembly wizards out there that know how to go about disabling these, using hex editor? I am assuming the developers or publishers made this difficult on purpose.

lesta_smsc · 06 March 2021, 16:36

Is there no other versions of this e.g. IPF version that can be made to ADF? I have an entire collection of Deluxe Paint utilities in storage (including the video editors) so if needed I could make an image at some point (I'm hoping I have this version).

bni · 07 March 2021, 09:46

TOSEC only seems to contain a few of the DeluxePaint versions. But my knowledge about it is contained to what is in the EAB file server.

Even if we had other source I think the "Registered to" dialog will be there anyway on those versions?

lesta_smsc · 07 March 2021, 12:08

I'll try and dig out my version later if I get a chance. I doubt it will have copy protection so if I do find it I can create an .ADF.

Update: Yes you're right. Mine has the "For Commodore Bundle only", sorry. Also tells me to "Pass the word... not the disk!"

Matt_H · 07 March 2021, 16:55

If it’s like other programs that do this sort of thing, the only difference with an uncracked original is it’s going to ask you to plug your own name into the requester window. Getting rid of the window entirely is going to be a much more complicated hacking effort.

The older DPaint IV (non-AGA) doesn’t have this window, though. So if you can put up with the smaller palette and reduced features it’s certainly an option.

bni · 08 March 2021, 16:48

My favorite version is Deluxe Paint III as that is what I used back in the day on my A500. It is the last version that was released with Dan Silva still onboard, and the program lost some of its identity after that. I mean its noticeable other devs got involved in IV and V.

Also doesn't have that ugly window that you need to dismiss each time. So my reason for using IV and V is AGA support. It kind of surprises me that no cracking group removed this in the cracked versions.

jotd · 08 March 2021, 21:31

I don't think it's very difficult to remove this popup. I'm going to try to do that, for instance on the 5.2 version.

note that the popup goes away after 1 or 2 seconds if you don't click on anything... no biggie.

kamelito · 08 March 2021, 23:00

I guess it’s not, is latest versions still use hunk overlay?

jotd · 08 March 2021, 23:28

no, I could disassemble v5.2 with IRA without issues

bni · 09 March 2021, 17:58

Thanks for looking at it jotd

jotd · 09 March 2021, 22:36

zoned a 5.2 exe with the nag requester appearing just a fraction of a second then closing. Should be all right.

redblade · 10 March 2021, 10:05

was it just a _LVODelay while loading, or did it open the window, load the app then close the nag screen?

jotd · 10 March 2021, 17:34

nope. A LVOWait in a gadtools loop.

bni · 15 March 2021, 19:36

Got around to test this and happy to report it works great

thanks jotd

06 March 2021, 13:55	#1
bni Registered User Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Örebro Age: 47 Posts: 117	Deluxe Paint IV, V removing startup dialog Im a big fan of these classic programs. But one thing that is always bugging me is the "Regstistered to Ian Cogins" or "For Commodore bundle only" dialog that is displayed when they start. I am using versions form TOSEC from the eab file server: Deluxe Paint IV v4.5 (1992)(Electronic Arts)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 3)(Program)[CBM A1200 bundle].adf Deluxe Paint V v5.0 (1994)(Electronic Arts)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 4)(Program).adf Any assembly wizards out there that know how to go about disabling these, using hex editor? I am assuming the developers or publishers made this difficult on purpose.

07 March 2021, 12:08	#4
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,178	I'll try and dig out my version later if I get a chance. I doubt it will have copy protection so if I do find it I can create an .ADF. Update: Yes you're right. Mine has the "For Commodore Bundle only", sorry. Also tells me to "Pass the word... not the disk!" Last edited by lesta_smsc; 07 March 2021 at 15:51.

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06 March 2021, 16:36	#2
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,178	Is there no other versions of this e.g. IPF version that can be made to ADF? I have an entire collection of Deluxe Paint utilities in storage (including the video editors) so if needed I could make an image at some point (I'm hoping I have this version).

07 March 2021, 09:46	#3
bni Registered User Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Örebro Age: 47 Posts: 117	TOSEC only seems to contain a few of the DeluxePaint versions. But my knowledge about it is contained to what is in the EAB file server. Even if we had other source I think the "Registered to" dialog will be there anyway on those versions?

07 March 2021, 16:55	#5
Matt_H Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 945	If it’s like other programs that do this sort of thing, the only difference with an uncracked original is it’s going to ask you to plug your own name into the requester window. Getting rid of the window entirely is going to be a much more complicated hacking effort. The older DPaint IV (non-AGA) doesn’t have this window, though. So if you can put up with the smaller palette and reduced features it’s certainly an option.

08 March 2021, 16:48	#6
bni Registered User Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Örebro Age: 47 Posts: 117	My favorite version is Deluxe Paint III as that is what I used back in the day on my A500. It is the last version that was released with Dan Silva still onboard, and the program lost some of its identity after that. I mean its noticeable other devs got involved in IV and V. Also doesn't have that ugly window that you need to dismiss each time. So my reason for using IV and V is AGA support. It kind of surprises me that no cracking group removed this in the cracked versions.

08 March 2021, 21:31	#7
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,303	I don't think it's very difficult to remove this popup. I'm going to try to do that, for instance on the 5.2 version. note that the popup goes away after 1 or 2 seconds if you don't click on anything... no biggie.

08 March 2021, 23:00	#8
kamelito Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: France Posts: 1,803	I guess it’s not, is latest versions still use hunk overlay?

08 March 2021, 23:28	#9
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,303	no, I could disassemble v5.2 with IRA without issues

09 March 2021, 17:58	#10
bni Registered User Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Örebro Age: 47 Posts: 117	Thanks for looking at it jotd

09 March 2021, 22:36	#11
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,303	zoned a 5.2 exe with the nag requester appearing just a fraction of a second then closing. Should be all right.

10 March 2021, 10:05	#12
redblade Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Middle Earth Age: 40 Posts: 2,127	was it just a _LVODelay while loading, or did it open the window, load the app then close the nag screen?

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10 March 2021, 17:34	#13
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,303	nope. A LVOWait in a gadtools loop.

15 March 2021, 19:36	#14
bni Registered User Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Örebro Age: 47 Posts: 117	Got around to test this and happy to report it works great thanks jotd