AmigaOS 3.1.4 cannot mount 32GB FAT32 CF in PCMCIA

Loki762 · 22 March 2021, 22:10

I have just bought a 32GB SanDisk ExtremePro CF... completely overkill (transfer speed) but it was available in stock. I also just reinstalled 3.1.4 and installed the CF driver but when I insert the FAT32 formatted CF card then nothing happens - no idcon on desktop.

Windows does not give me any option to format this in smaller FAT partitions (is 2GB max in FAT?).

Before that I actually tried using the 32GB CF as a harddisk in my Amiga 1200 and it could fine install a full 3.1.4 and so on, so Amiga CAN see the card, I know - not broken or anything.

But is it because the PCMCIA CF interface only supports normal FAT or is there any chance I can use this 32GB CF as a data transportation device as intended? :-)

Edited: As this is AmigaOS 3.1.4.1 then I expected that PCMCIA CF also can be bigger than 2 or 4GB? I have at least without any problems formatted a 28GB partition previously as a harddrive.

Jope · 23 March 2021, 06:34

The PCMCIA interface doesn't care. It's the filesystem driver you use that cares. There are no filesystem drivers for NTFS or exFAT on the Amiga.

You should be able to use diskpart in windows to create a FAT32 filesystem on there, even if the GUI format dialog refuses.

Loki762 · 23 March 2021, 07:32

I know that NTFS and exFAT does not work with Amiga but I did format it to a 32GB FAT32 partition but the Amiga cannot read it when sticking it in to PCMCIA.

I found out how to create a smaller 2GB FAT partition and then not utilize the rest but not even this it can read!?

I can transfer files easily to the CF in Windows.

Am I just unlucky that this SanDisk does not work with the PCMCIA interface?

Jope · 23 March 2021, 08:32

You may be unlucky in that case. Do you have any other cards to try?

As an aside, I am currently debugging one A1200 that will not read any CF card in the PCMCIA slot, hope your hardware has not failed.

Loki762 · 23 March 2021, 10:58

My PCMCIA is for sure not broken as it works with a smaller CF - nor are the CF cards as they work as harddisks within the Amiga 1200.

I have now also tried formatting another 16GB SanDisk Ultra with FAT32 but with the same bad luck - nothing happens when I put it in the Amiga.

Can it be the Amiga driver I have installed for PCMCIA? I bought the card from AmigaStore.eu and used the driver from there. Can there be another driver I need to install?

Are there anyone else having a 32GB or 16GB CF that works with PCMCIA? Maybe I need to buy one of those?

I am very confused what this problem is about and I don't understand if this is the CF, the PCMCIA hardware, the PCMCIA driver or something completely different.

G8YAJ · 23 March 2021, 12:09

I have the same problem exept when i clean the CF in WinUae it doesn't show in HD select nor any other drive.

G8YAJ · 23 March 2021, 12:12

Does any one know how to make Amiga 600 booting from Hard drive recognize PCMCIA CF card?

Loki762 · 23 March 2021, 17:32

My PCMCIA card for my Amiga 1200 was bought at AMIGAstore.eu but its provided floppy disk does not work any more so I installed the CF adapter driver that came together with the AmigaOS 3.1.4 CF card.

Could this be the reason it cannot read this? Does anyone know where I can download the original floppy as provided by AMIGAstore.eu as I expect this is some freeeware they have taken?

Jope · 23 March 2021, 18:45

They're based on this: http://aminet.net/package/driver/media/CFD133
And the fat95 driver is often included too.

OS3.1.4 also comes with a fat32 compatible driver as far as I understood. I haven't tried it myself though.

Loki762 · 23 March 2021, 20:38

The Aminet didn't work for me. I copied the "compactflash.device" to DEVS: and rebooted but same result.

Any other proposals? :-)

Loki762 · 24 March 2021, 22:10

I have tried to update the "compackflash.device" and "CF0" drivers and are now using v1.33, which should be the newest one but still with the same no-luck.

I also tried running "hdtoolbox compactflash.device" but it just hangs with "Checking compactflash.device address 0 unit 0..."

I then did the CFDDEBUG and have attached the binary ZIP but I am not having any hope that someone can get some meaningfull from this?
logfile.zip

I have more or less come to the conclusion that my two large SanDisk CF cards are incompatible with my Amiga 1200 :-/

But can anyone give me an exact known good 32GB CF card that I can buy somewhere? :-) I am using AmigaOS 3.1.4.1.

svenr · 26 March 2021, 13:50

I have tried to read CF Cards in my A2000. AmigaOS needs very much memory for partitions. Try a smaller card/partition and look at the free memory. You will see that also smaller partitions need a lot of memory.

Loki762 · 26 March 2021, 15:34

2KB chip-RAM and 180KB fast-RAM for my 256MB CF. If this is proportional then a 16GB would be 128KB chip and 11.3MB fast. This should still not be a problem as I have 2MB chp and 32MB fast.

I only can use my 256MB CF as this is the only thing that works currently.

Alexco · 26 March 2021, 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loki762

Any other proposals? :-)

This is only the device. For access of PC formatted cards you also need the fat96 package. And of course the provided mount lists.

Thomas Richter · 26 March 2021, 17:31

Is this a superfloppy? Is it partitioned? What is the device name? Remember, this makes a difference for CrossDos.

22 March 2021, 22:10	#1
Loki762 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Denmark Posts: 56	AmigaOS 3.1.4 cannot mount 32GB FAT32 CF in PCMCIA I have just bought a 32GB SanDisk ExtremePro CF... completely overkill (transfer speed) but it was available in stock. I also just reinstalled 3.1.4 and installed the CF driver but when I insert the FAT32 formatted CF card then nothing happens - no idcon on desktop. Windows does not give me any option to format this in smaller FAT partitions (is 2GB max in FAT?). Before that I actually tried using the 32GB CF as a harddisk in my Amiga 1200 and it could fine install a full 3.1.4 and so on, so Amiga CAN see the card, I know - not broken or anything. But is it because the PCMCIA CF interface only supports normal FAT or is there any chance I can use this 32GB CF as a data transportation device as intended? :-) Edited: As this is AmigaOS 3.1.4.1 then I expected that PCMCIA CF also can be bigger than 2 or 4GB? I have at least without any problems formatted a 28GB partition previously as a harddrive. Last edited by Loki762; 22 March 2021 at 22:25.

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23 March 2021, 06:34	#2
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,874	The PCMCIA interface doesn't care. It's the filesystem driver you use that cares. There are no filesystem drivers for NTFS or exFAT on the Amiga. You should be able to use diskpart in windows to create a FAT32 filesystem on there, even if the GUI format dialog refuses.

23 March 2021, 07:32	#3
Loki762 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Denmark Posts: 56	I know that NTFS and exFAT does not work with Amiga but I did format it to a 32GB FAT32 partition but the Amiga cannot read it when sticking it in to PCMCIA. I found out how to create a smaller 2GB FAT partition and then not utilize the rest but not even this it can read!? I can transfer files easily to the CF in Windows. Am I just unlucky that this SanDisk does not work with the PCMCIA interface?

23 March 2021, 08:32	#4
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,874	You may be unlucky in that case. Do you have any other cards to try? As an aside, I am currently debugging one A1200 that will not read any CF card in the PCMCIA slot, hope your hardware has not failed.

23 March 2021, 10:58	#5
Loki762 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Denmark Posts: 56	My PCMCIA is for sure not broken as it works with a smaller CF - nor are the CF cards as they work as harddisks within the Amiga 1200. I have now also tried formatting another 16GB SanDisk Ultra with FAT32 but with the same bad luck - nothing happens when I put it in the Amiga. Can it be the Amiga driver I have installed for PCMCIA? I bought the card from AmigaStore.eu and used the driver from there. Can there be another driver I need to install? Are there anyone else having a 32GB or 16GB CF that works with PCMCIA? Maybe I need to buy one of those? I am very confused what this problem is about and I don't understand if this is the CF, the PCMCIA hardware, the PCMCIA driver or something completely different.

23 March 2021, 12:09	#6
G8YAJ Registered User Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Brierley Hill Posts: 3	I have the same problem exept when i clean the CF in WinUae it doesn't show in HD select nor any other drive.

23 March 2021, 12:12	#7
G8YAJ Registered User Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Brierley Hill Posts: 3	Does any one know how to make Amiga 600 booting from Hard drive recognize PCMCIA CF card?

23 March 2021, 17:32	#8
Loki762 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Denmark Posts: 56	My PCMCIA card for my Amiga 1200 was bought at AMIGAstore.eu but its provided floppy disk does not work any more so I installed the CF adapter driver that came together with the AmigaOS 3.1.4 CF card. Could this be the reason it cannot read this? Does anyone know where I can download the original floppy as provided by AMIGAstore.eu as I expect this is some freeeware they have taken?

23 March 2021, 18:45	#9
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,874	They're based on this: http://aminet.net/package/driver/media/CFD133 And the fat95 driver is often included too. OS3.1.4 also comes with a fat32 compatible driver as far as I understood. I haven't tried it myself though.

23 March 2021, 20:38	#10
Loki762 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Denmark Posts: 56	The Aminet didn't work for me. I copied the "compactflash.device" to DEVS: and rebooted but same result. Any other proposals? :-)

24 March 2021, 22:10	#11
Loki762 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Denmark Posts: 56	I have tried to update the "compackflash.device" and "CF0" drivers and are now using v1.33, which should be the newest one but still with the same no-luck. I also tried running "hdtoolbox compactflash.device" but it just hangs with "Checking compactflash.device address 0 unit 0..." I then did the CFDDEBUG and have attached the binary ZIP but I am not having any hope that someone can get some meaningfull from this? logfile.zip I have more or less come to the conclusion that my two large SanDisk CF cards are incompatible with my Amiga 1200 :-/ But can anyone give me an exact known good 32GB CF card that I can buy somewhere? :-) I am using AmigaOS 3.1.4.1.

26 March 2021, 13:50	#12
svenr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: HB Germany Posts: 1	I have tried to read CF Cards in my A2000. AmigaOS needs very much memory for partitions. Try a smaller card/partition and look at the free memory. You will see that also smaller partitions need a lot of memory.

26 March 2021, 15:34	#13
Loki762 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Denmark Posts: 56	2KB chip-RAM and 180KB fast-RAM for my 256MB CF. If this is proportional then a 16GB would be 128KB chip and 11.3MB fast. This should still not be a problem as I have 2MB chp and 32MB fast. I only can use my 256MB CF as this is the only thing that works currently.

26 March 2021, 17:31	#15
Thomas Richter Registered User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Germany Posts: 3,247	Is this a superfloppy? Is it partitioned? What is the device name? Remember, this makes a difference for CrossDos.

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