The Speris Legacy one drive question

[kremiso]

I'm searching for a working .adf's set for this game
i would like to give it a go in the next days, on a default real A1200

Now, i'm trying both the .ipf and all the .adf cracks via WinUAE
but cannot reach to start the game with a default A1200 conf, one drive

the game asks for disk2 after a while, but when i press fire after the diskchange , nothing happens and the screen stays black

no problem setting two drives instead

i need to set something on WinUAE or the game require at least two drives?

[Solo Kazuki]

Install game on hard disk...
Sorry but I never had such problem on real Amiga, because first what I did was installation of game on HDD.

[kremiso]

i don't have an hdd on my a1200
just default one drive hardware

i don't know if this is just a winUAE setting thing btw

[Galahad/FLT]

Originally Posted by kremiso

i don't have an hdd on my a1200
just default one drive hardware

i don't know if this is just a winUAE setting thing btw

Try tweaking the floppy speed, it might be if set too fast It won't load properly, might be a close file issue

[BarryB]

Must be something in your WinUAE setup, I can get it to load to the Copy Protection screen on Disk 2 with the default quickstart A1200 config and 1 drive.

I'm using the IPF's I made from my original disks!

[kremiso]

i have tried also the tosec sps 1337 release
here i have Best Compatibility enabled and 100% compatible floppy emulation
can i try to select something other thing in add?

oh, seems enabling 4MB Fast make the game start also with one drive
btw, strange behaviour

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Try tweaking the floppy speed, it might be if set too fast It won't load properly, might be a close file issue

I think it's a 3.1 ROM issue Galahad, it only loads with a 3.0 ROM in WinUAE for me. With a 3.1 ROM it won't load after inserting Disk 2 and the screen stays black as kremiso has found out, so I would guess he's using a 3.1 ROM?

[kremiso]

Originally Posted by BarryB

I think it's a 3.1 ROM issue Galahad, it only loads with a 3.0 ROM in WinUAE for me. With a 3.1 ROM it won't load after inserting Disk 2 and the screen stays black as kremiso has found out, so I would guess he's using a 3.1 ROM?

Interesting find BarryB, yes i'm testing with 3.1 here

i have also tried the tricks written into the ReadMe.txt, into the first disk :

"N.B. If you have only a base A1200 without any fast ram you may need to
take additional steps to make the game run properly. The best way of
freeing up some memory is to load up Power-Packer and decrunch the
`Speris.Exe' file, writing it back down again in the same place with
the same name. If the game still refuses to load you may need to
remove external peripherals such as printers, extra disk drives etc.
Booting with no startup-sequence also can make a difference, if you
do this make sure you re-enter the four assigns listed in (c). Also
try disabling the device `CC0:' from the boot-menu as this frees up
approximately 20k. Any further problems simply contact Team17 and we
will try our best to help you."

but none seems to work here
a bit paradoxical the 'remove the extra drives' one, in this case seems the opposite lol

[Galahad/FLT]

Seems weird, I know my A1200 was Kickstart 3.0 as I bought mine on day of release, and Ian's A4000 would likely have been the same.

Speris was extensively play tested at the time and there was no issue it booting up on my A1200 at all from disk.

I would also expect Kickstart 3.1 to be slightly more memory hungry,,not less than 3.0 as well.

[kremiso]

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Seems weird, I know my A1200 was Kickstart 3.0 as I bought mine on day of release, and Ian's A4000 would likely have been the same.

Speris was extensively play tested at the time and there was no issue it booting up on my A1200 at all from disk.

I would also expect Kickstart 3.1 to be slightly more memory hungry,,not less than 3.0 as well.

bizarre at least, also the fact that using two drives there should be a bit less memory available, and instead the game works with default 2MB? (WinUAE)
in a couple of days i can check also on my real A1200, but if i remember correctly mine is 3.1

i'm having a bit of fun doing attempts atm, i reached to make start the disk2 loading (with one drive) adding the 'add21k' to the startup-sequence (PDX crack), but the game crashed soon after, in the following loading

the same add21k does not make any difference used on the original ipf's instead

[BarryB]

What about using add44k, wasn't that for AGA machines?

[kremiso]

Originally Posted by BarryB

What about using add44k, wasn't that for AGA machines?

seems worse effect than add21k here (crash), but it could be the add44k version i have

in meantime, i have reached to make all the cracked versions to load correctly until the game itself
using the combo disable CC0 on early boot + add21k on startup-sequence
---EDIT--- nope, the game will crash further on, absolutely unstable with ks3.1 ---EDIT---

strangely, the ipf continue to not load instead

[BarryB]

Does using a 3.0 ROM work for you?

If Galahad used a stock A1200 with 3.0 ROM when developing it then it should load on that config in WinUAE!

[kremiso]

Originally Posted by BarryB

Does using a 3.0 ROM work for you?

If Galahad used a stock A1200 with 3.0 ROM when developing it then it should load on that config in WinUAE!

I knew I had forgotten to say something lol
yes, using 3.0 it is absolutely ok here, on WinUAE, thanks to your find

i was just doing attempts, trying to make it work on 3.1 also
because i want to give it a complete longplay, on my real A1200, in a couple of days
iirc i have a ks3.1 model (all my retroarsenal is in another location)
i have reached with the cracked versions (EDIT nope, the game will crash the same further on), but not with the ipf (i mean with 3.1 ofc)

i'll update this when i'll test it on real hw

[BarryB]

I wondered if you had tried a 3.0 ROM, I have 3.1 ROMS in my physical A1200 but use WHDLoad for most games on that!

I wonder if Galahad can patch it for 3.1 or is it not worth it?

[kremiso]

Originally Posted by BarryB

...I wonder if Galahad can patch it for 3.1 or is it not worth it?

dunno, it's just a picky find afterall
using two drives, 2MB and ks3.1, all seems working exactly the same as ks3.0
(i need to check when asking for the other disks btw)

and i can say, playing a bit into this, with just 2MB is better to have at least two drives, to avoid many disk changes

the issue seems limited in using one drive, 2MB and ks3.1
btw, it would be great to investigate what strange event is causing this, compared to ks3.0