Mediator 1200TX+ issues Help required

Leon Besson · 11 April 2022, 20:07

Yo Bromigos!

I’m currently playing around trying to get Warp3D to work on my Mediator 1200TX+

After reading up about getting WarpUp and Warp3D to work on my BPPC 060 card and have finally now got this working.

Used this to help me out;

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=91493

-Currently running Amiga OS 3.1.4 ROMs
- 3.9 install with workbench.library and icon.library from 3.1.4 install disk.
- Mediator MMCD 2 CD with MMCD 2.6 update and pci.library version 13.10
- Picasso 3.2.4 Icomp licensed
- screenmodes setup correctly (workbench using 1024.768 x 16 with 640x480 x 16)
- fastEthernet.device driver using a RTL 8039D chipset card (works fine on 4MB jumper with mediator)
- thorsMMU Libs installed with BPPfix install 040 >NIL: deployed at beginning of startup-sequence

But I’m having the following issues;

1)… On cold boot the workbench screen locks up and the only way to get this working is by doing a warm reboot. I think this is down to WarpUp 5.1? As that’s when it started to do this. Anyone know of issues with WarpUp?

2).. I’m using the 8MB jumper on the mediator, but this also causes my network card not to operate properly. For example roadshow will not connect up to my network (Fine in 4MB jumper mode). Is this a known issue?

Any help Mangs! Appreciated

At the moment having a

moment with this

Hedeon · 11 April 2022, 21:11

BPPCFix should reboot your system when firstly run I think. Maybe it does not do that and therefore needs a warm reboot?

Leon Besson · 11 April 2022, 22:35

Thanks Hedeon.

Can confirm that this does the same on my other Tower setup with a different BPPC card and 1200TX mediator.

But the network issue doesn’t carry across. So I must have a different issue there. Possibly NIC or hardware fault.

Leon Besson · 11 April 2022, 23:55

Well tried a different NIC and cable and still the same issue

I’m thinking this is an issue with the 1200TX+ rev 2.2 2021 board.
The 1200 TX rev 2.1 2018 one in my other tower is t giving me this issue.

This is weird

Leon Besson · 12 April 2022, 01:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

BPPCFix should reboot your system when firstly run I think. Maybe it does not do that and therefore needs a warm reboot?

Looks like something on the version of my BBPfix isn’t doing the reboot. Have had the WarpUp/OS message about terminating the ppc.library.

Will look into which version this is and try a different one

The BPPfix I’m using is from thorsMMU (latest version off Aminet).

Have contacted Elbox about the 1200TX+ problem with 8MB jumper as well.

Will report back when I hear back.

Leon Besson · 14 April 2022, 00:55

So sent medreport.txt off to Elbox. Not only is my NIC not working properly but the Spider II USB has problems in 8MB jumpered. In 4MB jumpered mode it’s working fine.

Elbox have now asked me to check my Re-Amiga V1.5 Chucky board as at the moment my test tower has a 1D1 Commodore recapped board and the system NOT working properly has the Chucky recreated board. Hopefully I will get to the root of the problem soon. Fingers crossed it’s not a Re-Amiga board issue

Leon Besson · 14 April 2022, 18:56

So after taking time today to strip out my Amiga Tower, it appears I have now fixed the issue. Looks as though the Chucky Re-Amiga V 1.5 board with NOS chips is to blame. Have just fitted everything on my workbench to a spare 1D1 rev Commodore which is recapped and all now seems to function with 8MB jumpered.

Well this is a kicker. Just put everything back into my tower with the tested 1D1 and have the same issue again!

So must be something else

Leon Besson · 14 April 2022, 23:54

Fixed It! It was the God damn PCMCIA port! 3.1.4 also played a part by giving false positives due to how it handles the greater than 4MB side of things to keep the PCMCIA working. I placed a PCMCIA SD card reader/writer without the SD card inserted which still meant the Amiga was still trying to use it triggering the issues I was seeing

As soon as I removed the card and powered back on, NiC card has started working again and so has Warp3D.
Lesson learned the hard way Bromigos!

Hedeon · 15 April 2022, 10:38

No PCMCIA for u when you need all 8mb. This is a good example that you must provide all info when you have issues :-D

Leon Besson · 15 April 2022, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedeon

No PCMCIA for u when you need all 8mb. This is a good example that you must provide all info when you have issues :-D

Indeed Hedeon….Indeed!

The issue now is that I was using the PCMCIA for file transfers. So I have now fitted a couple of toggle switches to the “Config” and the “0/4/8” jumpers so I can now toggle between them with out having to take the Tower case apart

indigolemon · 15 April 2022, 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon Besson

The issue now is that I was using the PCMCIA for file transfers. So I have now fitted a couple of toggle switches to the “Config” and the “0/4/8” jumpers so I can now toggle between them with out having to take the Tower case apart

If you have a network card would an SMB mount be easier? That's how I transfer files to my towered 1200

Leon Besson · 15 April 2022, 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by indigolemon

If you have a network card would an SMB mount be easier? That's how I transfer files to my towered 1200

Yes Bromigo! Will be looking into that. It’s just with a SD/CF card I keep all of my installation files and extras on that card when I come to do any system installs from scratch etc…

indigolemon · 15 April 2022, 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon Besson

Yes Bromigo! Will be looking into that. It’s just with a SD/CF card I keep all of my installation files and extras on that card when I come to do any system installs from scratch etc…

Ah gotcha! I use a USB Card Reader with my spider for that purpose

Leon Besson · 16 April 2022, 01:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by indigolemon

Ah gotcha! I use a USB Card Reader with my spider for that purpose

I have one of those too. But find that the PCMCIA has a faster transfer rate than the Spider-II. Plus it’s faster than the RapidRoad Clockport version

indigolemon · 16 April 2022, 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon Besson

I have one of those too. But find that the PCMCIA has a faster transfer rate than the Spider-II. Plus it’s faster than the RapidRoad Clockport version

That's fair, I've never speed tested the Spider, just love the convenience! RapidRoad is an interesting one, the tendency to cook itself if you hotplug devices put me off ever getting one

Kin Hell · 16 April 2022, 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon Besson

I have one of those too. But find that the PCMCIA has a faster transfer rate than the Spider-II. Plus it’s faster than the RapidRoad Clockport version

I might have got you wrong, but which PCMCIA to USB adapter are you using please? - or is it just a PCMCIA card reader??

Leon Besson · 16 April 2022, 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kin Hell

I might have got you wrong, but which PCMCIA to USB adapter are you using please? - or is it just a PCMCIA card reader??

I’m using a PCMCIA adapter that uses SD Cards on my PCMCIA port. But also use a Spider-II on my mediator with a Kingston card reader.
I have other Amigas such as a Checkmate built one where I have a RapidRoad Clockport version but with a powered USB hub which then I connect a USB card reader to to help prevent the 5volt killer destroying my Rapid Road

Leon Besson · 16 April 2022, 19:29

So. Found a unique way around not having PCMCIA access and gain triple the speed.
As I also have a Elbox FASTATA MKV in my system and boot from SCSI using the 603e and SD2SCSI adapter. I have now created a new CF0 mount point so L:FAT95 and scsi.device using the FASTATA is used for my SD Windows formatted card instead. Great thing about that is that I get close triple the speed now

Before I was getting 2.9 to 3.0 Mbps transfer on PCMCIA. Now with FASTATA 6.5Mbps

About twice as fast as my Spider-II using a Kingston Card reader

11 April 2022, 20:07	#1
Leon Besson Banned Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Anywhere and everywhere I have a contract Posts: 822	Mediator 1200TX+ issues Help required Yo Bromigos! I’m currently playing around trying to get Warp3D to work on my Mediator 1200TX+ After reading up about getting WarpUp and Warp3D to work on my BPPC 060 card and have finally now got this working. Used this to help me out; http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=91493 -Currently running Amiga OS 3.1.4 ROMs - 3.9 install with workbench.library and icon.library from 3.1.4 install disk. - Mediator MMCD 2 CD with MMCD 2.6 update and pci.library version 13.10 - Picasso 3.2.4 Icomp licensed - screenmodes setup correctly (workbench using 1024.768 x 16 with 640x480 x 16) - fastEthernet.device driver using a RTL 8039D chipset card (works fine on 4MB jumper with mediator) - thorsMMU Libs installed with BPPfix install 040 >NIL: deployed at beginning of startup-sequence But I’m having the following issues; 1)… On cold boot the workbench screen locks up and the only way to get this working is by doing a warm reboot. I think this is down to WarpUp 5.1? As that’s when it started to do this. Anyone know of issues with WarpUp? 2).. I’m using the 8MB jumper on the mediator, but this also causes my network card not to operate properly. For example roadshow will not connect up to my network (Fine in 4MB jumper mode). Is this a known issue? Any help Mangs! Appreciated At the moment having a moment with this

14 April 2022, 18:56	#7
Leon Besson Banned Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Anywhere and everywhere I have a contract Posts: 822	So after taking time today to strip out my Amiga Tower, it appears I have now fixed the issue. Looks as though the Chucky Re-Amiga V 1.5 board with NOS chips is to blame. Have just fitted everything on my workbench to a spare 1D1 rev Commodore which is recapped and all now seems to function with 8MB jumpered. Well this is a kicker. Just put everything back into my tower with the tested 1D1 and have the same issue again! So must be something else Last edited by Leon Besson; 14 April 2022 at 21:05.

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11 April 2022, 21:11	#2
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,016	BPPCFix should reboot your system when firstly run I think. Maybe it does not do that and therefore needs a warm reboot?

11 April 2022, 22:35	#3
Leon Besson Banned Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Anywhere and everywhere I have a contract Posts: 822	Thanks Hedeon. Can confirm that this does the same on my other Tower setup with a different BPPC card and 1200TX mediator. But the network issue doesn’t carry across. So I must have a different issue there. Possibly NIC or hardware fault.

11 April 2022, 23:55	#4
Leon Besson Banned Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Anywhere and everywhere I have a contract Posts: 822	Well tried a different NIC and cable and still the same issue I’m thinking this is an issue with the 1200TX+ rev 2.2 2021 board. The 1200 TX rev 2.1 2018 one in my other tower is t giving me this issue. This is weird

14 April 2022, 00:55	#6
Leon Besson Banned Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Anywhere and everywhere I have a contract Posts: 822	So sent medreport.txt off to Elbox. Not only is my NIC not working properly but the Spider II USB has problems in 8MB jumpered. In 4MB jumpered mode it’s working fine. Elbox have now asked me to check my Re-Amiga V1.5 Chucky board as at the moment my test tower has a 1D1 Commodore recapped board and the system NOT working properly has the Chucky recreated board. Hopefully I will get to the root of the problem soon. Fingers crossed it’s not a Re-Amiga board issue

14 April 2022, 23:54	#8
Leon Besson Banned Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Anywhere and everywhere I have a contract Posts: 822	Fixed It! It was the God damn PCMCIA port! 3.1.4 also played a part by giving false positives due to how it handles the greater than 4MB side of things to keep the PCMCIA working. I placed a PCMCIA SD card reader/writer without the SD card inserted which still meant the Amiga was still trying to use it triggering the issues I was seeing As soon as I removed the card and powered back on, NiC card has started working again and so has Warp3D. Lesson learned the hard way Bromigos!

15 April 2022, 10:38	#9
Hedeon Semi-Retired Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leiden / The Netherlands Posts: 2,016	No PCMCIA for u when you need all 8mb. This is a good example that you must provide all info when you have issues :-D

16 April 2022, 19:29	#18
Leon Besson Banned Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Anywhere and everywhere I have a contract Posts: 822	So. Found a unique way around not having PCMCIA access and gain triple the speed. As I also have a Elbox FASTATA MKV in my system and boot from SCSI using the 603e and SD2SCSI adapter. I have now created a new CF0 mount point so L:FAT95 and scsi.device using the FASTATA is used for my SD Windows formatted card instead. Great thing about that is that I get close triple the speed now Before I was getting 2.9 to 3.0 Mbps transfer on PCMCIA. Now with FASTATA 6.5Mbps About twice as fast as my Spider-II using a Kingston Card reader

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