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How to make a Linux/UAE System
Hi, I have seen some packages that boot Linux directly into UAE, and are installed in CDs and USB sticks, and I am thinking to do the same for my USB stick but with my own hard-file. This way I dont need Windows anymore in my HD to play with it (I dont will throw Windows out, it is useful yet).
I dont know if this is a easy thing to do, or if there is any ready-made cd/usb installable distribution to me hack into it (Knoppix?)... Anybody can say to me how its done, where are the bits and pieces that I would need? There is a guide on the net about how to make it? I have some experience with Linux from 2000 when I installed it on my computer, and compiled the kernel, but I dont know what has changed since then. Since that time I didnt used it anymore. For example, at that time, the framebuffer was slow and unstable, and I could not use X-Window with it, but and now? UAE can run on the framebuffer directly or need to be used with an X-Server? What is the best option for size/performance/compatibility? Is there a simple way to copy the contents of the Knoppix distribution to a USB stick with 4 GB, without the need to burn a dvd of it first? There are so many questions, I know, but somebody can help me? ![]() Last edited by Leandro Jardim; 22 May 2012 at 21:43. |
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I've never tried this, but here is what I think should work.
Get a Knoppix CD and boot it. Use the tool flash-knoppix to install the system on a stick. That system will be persistent (changes will stick). Boot from the stick. Install the uae flavor, Kickstarts and games of your choice. Configure uae config file. You can put a line "uae &" into the .xinitrc in the standard user's home folder. UAE will be started automatically. The problem is that fs-uae and plain uae can't be configured with popup dialogs atm. If you want to start it in full screen mode you will need e-uae or p-uae. |
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Don't get me wrong, fs-uae is really great.
![]() But you can't do configuration inside the gui atm. (Do you remember my question about this?) Therefore you can't use your PC as an Amiga media center with fs-uae where you can entirely skip the whole Linux stuff and boot directly into the emulator. You still need to edit configuration files. p-uae and e-uae have a mask where you can select Kickstart version and such without ever leaving the program, just like WinUAE. |
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![]() But yes, you are correct about the configuration thing, you would rather have to boot to a launcher if you want to change settings such as Amiga model or kickstart. Of course, there is the new launcher (development version, in progress), and G-FS-UAE. So you could start one of those instead... If you want to start the Amiga automatically with a default configuration, and still have the possibility to make hardware adjustments, you could start: Code:
fs-uae <launcher> |
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I see. Very UNIXish solution.
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i would just copy the live system from the amiga forever dvd
mount and unpack 'knoppix' file change contents to my needs and repack file mkisofs and done. ![]() i don't remember everything (did this for a knoppix cd) but: - Mount the compressed KNOPPIX file. insmod cloop file=home/KNOPPIX mount -o ro /dev/cloop compressed/ - Copy the knoppix source to your working directory mkdir source cp -Rupv compressed/* source/ - Umount the compressed KNOPPIX image umount /dev/cloop iirc you need a prog to repack knoppix file, which i can't remember. maybe someone know better |
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Im a windows user and all that sounds a bit um ...different ...So for me i think out of the box for this sort of thing.
But in laymans terms as amiga forever boots to workbench from the DVD drive even without a HDD....Wouldnt it be possible to just copy that to a HDD and boot from that ? I know many hate Amiga Forever but for a quick easy setup is it possible maybe ? Or of course download the free Commodore OS and run it from that ...It aint half bad for a freebie !! |
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Sure, http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=63922 but it's not without its problems. ![]() |
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OOOKAY...Not quite as easy as i thought
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runs winuae ? which OS is runing...winxp? thanks |
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Hi clauddio,
Every version of the AmigaForever CD from version 6.0 up will boot into Workbench (I have tried no earlier version). They boot Knoppix Light and then load E-UAE (IIRC). Note that it is not the DVDs which boot; they contain mostly videos. |
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Prowlers right....I meant the Amiga forever CD disk of course...Not the DVD's that come with the package....when i tried it i ran from the CD...I did not even have a HDD in the machine at the time so OS is irrelavent from that perspective.....Worth purchasing for what you have in mind
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I would love to make a Linux/UAE System, but only if I could make one like a real Amiga 1200. I see AmigaForever, for example, but it not looks like one, its very different really. For example, one with a launcher that mimics the gadtools gadgets and the early setup and with a boot sequence like of 3.0. With a version of UAE exclusively made for running one single model (like a A1200, the most generic) and a simple gui for switching disks, configuring memory and toggling some few options and running with all its glory in fullscreen on X server or directly on the Linux framebuffer.
![]() Ah, and a cool NTSC/PAL screen filter, why not? ![]() But I think that UAE needs a generic linux distribution for anyone that want to try it, and see your PC turn into a Amiga 1200. Well, more or less. ![]() I am not saying I will do it... I really cannot finish even my own programs, what to say about an UAE fork. I am only dreaming... ![]() |
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You really don't need to fork UAE to do this.
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Could YOU make a cd that could be just copied to a HDD thats pretty universal ?
Just in case your reading this wrong its not sarcasam it would be brilliant if you could so we could download the ISO ? Even i would be interested in having one ![]() |
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Installing UAE on an existing Linux and configuring is a matter of minutes. Getting it on a Live CD that everybody can use is a different matter. I have neither time nor resources to do this all by myself atm.
But now that you've mentioned it I see an EAB distro in the near future. ![]() It could be based on one of those ultra slick Linux distros like SliTaz or Porteus
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All sounds brilliant and definatly pheasable I wish i was more into linux now cuz i would have a crack at it myself
![]() Windows launchers etc no problem for me...But this as you state this is a different ball game....I suppose the bootable AROS is kind of similar. Hopefully theres someone out there that could give it a go. My Amiga Tribute II DVD (B) Disk did boot directly to workbench on the old Xbox but i cant even remember how i did that now. Last edited by synchro; 26 May 2012 at 17:36. |
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I think its a great idea !! but not being familiar with linux im not sure what i could contribute
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