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Old 21 May 2013, 10:54   #1
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A4000D Diagnostic ROM info

i need the rom diagnostic for repair a mobo a4000d, can you send me the file or a link?

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Old 21 May 2013, 11:04   #2
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i need the rom diagnostic for repair a mobo a4000d, can you send me the file or a link?

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Cloanto include them with Amiga Forever.
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Is it a ROM image FOL or something else?
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i have Amiga Forever download version but don't go

i have mount dvd Amiga Forever and now i look directory rom, the file diagnostic is?

i need convert in rom for my prommer, please i need more info

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Is it a ROM image FOL or something else?
ROM image.

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i have mount dvd Amiga Forever and now i look directory rom, the file diagnostic is?
Yes.
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how to convert to binary file?

i have started Amiga Forever, now select a4000 and go, now run romsave, now i have a file 512k, i swapped, but now i need split even and odd

but af is started with rom3.1 not with diagnostic rom and now?

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thanks for hijacking my post.
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Sorry, thats why I stopped replying.
New thread created by removing off-topic posts from Marcelv's Amiga 4000 repair question thread.
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how to convert to binary file?

i have started Amiga Forever, now select a4000 and go, now run romsave, now i have a file 512k, i swapped, but now i need split even and odd

but af is started with rom3.1 not with diagnostic rom and now?

Use WinHex to split the file in odd and even, select: Tools, FileTools, Dissect, Wordwise (16-bit)
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thanks for info and for split
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Interesting. What can the ROM actually do/show?
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Interesting. What can the ROM actually do/show?
Until that question can be answered, have a look at this thread also: Amiga 4000 repair question.
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Use WinHex to split the file in odd and even, select: Tools, FileTools, Dissect, Wordwise (16-bit)
i read original prom, the rom need swap
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Use WinHex to split the file in odd and even, select: Tools, FileTools, Dissect, Wordwise (16-bit)
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http://srecord.sourceforge.net/

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Splitting an Image
If you have a 16-bit data bus, but you are using two 8-bit EPROMs to hold your firmware, you can generate the even and odd images by using the −SPlit filter. Assuming your firmware is in the firmware.hex file, use the following:
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 2 0 −o firmware.even.hex
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 2 1 −o firmware.odd.hex This will result in the two necessary EPROM images. Note that the output addresses are divided by the split multiple, so if your EPROM images are at a particular offset (say 0x10000, in the following example), you need to remove the offset, and then replace it...
srec_cat firmware.hex \
−offset −0x10000 −split 2 0 \
−offset 0x10000 −o firmware.even.hex
srec_cat firmware.hex \
−offset −0x10000 −split 2 1 \
−offset 0x10000 −o firmware.odd.hex Note how the ability to apply multiple filters simplifies what would otherwise be a much longer script.
Striping
A second use for the −SPlit filter is memory striping.
You don’t have to split into byte-wide parts, you can choose other sizes. It is common to want to convert 32-bit wide data into two set of 16-bit wide data.
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 4 0 2 −o firmware.01.hex
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 4 2 2 −o firmware.23.hex This is relatively simple to understand, but you can use even wider stripes.
In this next example, the hardware requires that 512-byte blocks alternate between 4 EPROMs. Generating the 4 images would be done as follows:
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 0x800 0x000 0x200 −o firmware.0.hex
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 0x800 0x200 0x200 −o firmware.1.hex
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 0x800 0x400 0x200 −o firmware.2.hex
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 0x800 0x600 0x200 −o firmware.3.hex "

http://srecord.sourceforge.net/man/m..._examples.html
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thanks for info

i verify my dump with original and 6 byte are different

i have a kickstart switcher with 4 eprom and now i can update with other version
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http://srecord.sourceforge.net/

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Splitting an Image
If you have a 16-bit data bus, but you are using two 8-bit EPROMs to hold your firmware, you can generate the even and odd images by using the −SPlit filter. Assuming your firmware is in the firmware.hex file, use the following:
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 2 0 −o firmware.even.hex
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 2 1 −o firmware.odd.hex This will result in the two necessary EPROM images. Note that the output addresses are divided by the split multiple, so if your EPROM images are at a particular offset (say 0x10000, in the following example), you need to remove the offset, and then replace it...
srec_cat firmware.hex \
−offset −0x10000 −split 2 0 \
−offset 0x10000 −o firmware.even.hex
srec_cat firmware.hex \
−offset −0x10000 −split 2 1 \
−offset 0x10000 −o firmware.odd.hex Note how the ability to apply multiple filters simplifies what would otherwise be a much longer script.
Striping
A second use for the −SPlit filter is memory striping.
You don’t have to split into byte-wide parts, you can choose other sizes. It is common to want to convert 32-bit wide data into two set of 16-bit wide data.
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 4 0 2 −o firmware.01.hex
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 4 2 2 −o firmware.23.hex This is relatively simple to understand, but you can use even wider stripes.
In this next example, the hardware requires that 512-byte blocks alternate between 4 EPROMs. Generating the 4 images would be done as follows:
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 0x800 0x000 0x200 −o firmware.0.hex
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 0x800 0x200 0x200 −o firmware.1.hex
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 0x800 0x400 0x200 −o firmware.2.hex
srec_cat firmware.hex −split 0x800 0x600 0x200 −o firmware.3.hex "

http://srecord.sourceforge.net/man/m..._examples.html
Thankyou very much, Pandy! I have been seeking a comprehensive command line utility for manipulating ROM images for years.
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Thankyou very much, Pandy! I have been seeking a comprehensive command line utility for manipulating ROM images for years.
Heh, no problemo - happy to help - i can search for my DOS collection - various old EPROM programmers utilities - similar to srecord but usually one .exe or .com (yes, .com files probably from 80's last century)

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Heh, no problemo - happy to help - i can search for my DOS collection - various old EPROM programmers utilites - similar to srecord but usually one .exe or .com (yes, .com files probably from 80's last century)
Thanks. I would be interested to see them if you really don't mind searching them out.

Until now, I have been using SPLICE, a command line utility to splice bits of files together, and batch files to invoke it repeatedly. A bit of a pain, tbh.
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Thanks. I would be interested to see them if you really don't mind searching them out.

Until now, I have been using SPLICE, a command line utility to splice bits of files together, and batch files to invoke it repeatedly. A bit of a pain, tbh.
I've uploaded a package of EPROM Tools to The Zone for you.

Perhaps this can help - AFAIR some of those utilities are from very old HiLo universal programmer.

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