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rhester72 · 19 April 2023, 17:05

Prime Mover is weird.

Just like Combat Air Patrol (described here), the box is very clearly labeled NTSC with a US registration card, but the disks themselves are NOT labeled NTSC (or PAL, for that matter - see the HOL diskscan here, mine looks exactly like the one on the left), and are in fact PAL!

More specifically, when booting, everything looks like it _could_ be NTSC on disk 1 up until the "loading.. please wait" message (which is very badly vertically centered), and then once disk 2 is inserted and the game screen proper comes up, the "Prime Mover" logo at the bottom is mostly (but not entirely) cut off and the game glitches badly during play (none of which happens when booted in PAL).

I can't say why there's at least two Psygnosis games in their catalog that were retailed in NTSC-land but with PAL-only media, but I'm 100% confident this happened because _the package was factory-sealed when I received it_.

That being the case, I've zoned the preservation flux anyway (even though I strongly suspect they are identical to the already-preserved SPS release).

One more interesting detail is the disk-analyse conversion of Disk 2. It outputs thusly:

Code:

*** T77.0: Unexpected track length (seen 105671, expected 100150)
*** T78.0: Unexpected track length (seen 105690, expected 100150)
*** T78.1: Unexpected track length (seen 105685, expected 100150)
*** T79.0: Unexpected track length (seen 105672, expected 100150)
*** T79.1: Unexpected track length (seen 105686, expected 100150)
T0.0: AmigaDOS
T0.1-76.1: Prime Mover
T77.0: AmigaDOS
T77.1: Prime Mover
T78.0-79.1: AmigaDOS
T80.0-83.1: Unformatted

suggesting that there's something other than AmigaDOS-sectored data on those tracks. It only happens on disk 2, but the game works perfectly, so...*shrugs*

EDIT: Confirmed via RawDIC that the disks are 100% identical to the SPS release.

19 April 2023, 17:05	#2
rhester72 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New York / USA Posts: 360	Prime Mover is weird. Just like Combat Air Patrol (described here), the box is very clearly labeled NTSC with a US registration card, but the disks themselves are NOT labeled NTSC (or PAL, for that matter - see the HOL diskscan here, mine looks exactly like the one on the left), and are in fact PAL! More specifically, when booting, everything looks like it _could_ be NTSC on disk 1 up until the "loading.. please wait" message (which is very badly vertically centered), and then once disk 2 is inserted and the game screen proper comes up, the "Prime Mover" logo at the bottom is mostly (but not entirely) cut off and the game glitches badly during play (none of which happens when booted in PAL). I can't say why there's at least two Psygnosis games in their catalog that were retailed in NTSC-land but with PAL-only media, but I'm 100% confident this happened because _the package was factory-sealed when I received it_. That being the case, I've zoned the preservation flux anyway (even though I strongly suspect they are identical to the already-preserved SPS release). One more interesting detail is the disk-analyse conversion of Disk 2. It outputs thusly: Code: * T77.0: Unexpected track length (seen 105671, expected 100150) * T78.0: Unexpected track length (seen 105690, expected 100150) * T78.1: Unexpected track length (seen 105685, expected 100150) * T79.0: Unexpected track length (seen 105672, expected 100150) *** T79.1: Unexpected track length (seen 105686, expected 100150) T0.0: AmigaDOS T0.1-76.1: Prime Mover T77.0: AmigaDOS T77.1: Prime Mover T78.0-79.1: AmigaDOS T80.0-83.1: Unformatted suggesting that there's something other than AmigaDOS-sectored data on those tracks. It only happens on disk 2, but the game works perfectly, so...shrugs EDIT: Confirmed via RawDIC that the disks are 100% identical to the SPS release. Last edited by rhester72; 19 April 2023 at 19:43.