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ROTFL - you are not Jack Nicholson and i'm not (luckily) Tom Cruise - nevertheless this is all about your argumentation... poorly selected quotes of someone else...
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Your attempts to equate 8514 with Amiga 2D acceleration are misleading.
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Sophistics (IMHO quite poor).
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Your attempts to equate 8514 with Amiga 2D acceleration are misleading.
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And your point is? What are you trying to prove with those numbers?
Inflation rate? Gould greed?
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It's the opposite. Bill Sydnes executed the IBM "PCJr" mindset.
Read
https://www.landley.net/history/mirr...re/haynie.html
Dave Haynie:
When he got to Engineering, he hired a human bus error called Bill Sydnes to take over. Sydnes, a PC guy, didn t have the chops to run a computer, much less a computer design department. He was also an ex-IBMer, and spent much time trying to turn C= (a fairly slick, west-coast-style design operation), into the clunky mess that characterized the Dilbert Zones in most major east-coast-style companies. He and Ali also decided that AA wasn t going to work, so they cancelled both AA projects (Amiga 3000+ and Amiga 1000+, either one better for the market than the A4000 was), and put it all on the backburner, intentionally blowing the schedule by six+ months. They cancelled the A500, which was the only actively selling product ever cancelled in C= history, to my knowledge, and replaced it with the A600. The A600 was originally the A300, George Robbins's idea of a cheaper-than-A500 Amiga; a new line, not a replacement. Sydnes added so much bloat, the A600 was $50 more than the A500, $100 over the goal price.
Gould wasn't directly involve, but he did hire Ali. Ali hired Bill Sydnes. Ali didn't factor in Bill Sydnes' IBM PCJr failure record.
Ali fired Bill Sydnes after A300(A600) debacle.
Ali hired Lew Eggebrecht.
David Pleasance's Commodore the Inside Story book has Amigas must be hardware capable directive's origin and A300's resulting cost blowout, blames Commodore Germany.
Bill Sydnes is the person who decides between Commodore UK's and Commodore Germany's information.
https://www.landley.net/history/mirr...re/haynie.html
When he got to Engineering, he hired a human bus error called Bill Sydnes to take over. Sydnes, a PC guy, didn t have the chops to run a computer, much less a computer design department. He was also an ex-IBMer, and spent much time trying to turn C= (a fairly slick, west-coast-style design operation), into the clunky mess that characterized the Dilbert Zones in most major east-coast-style companies. He and Ali also decided that AA wasn t going to work, so they cancelled both AA projects (Amiga 3000+ and Amiga 1000+, either one better for the market than the A4000 was), and put it all on the backburner, intentionally blowing the schedule by six+ months. They cancelled the A500, which was the only actively selling product ever cancelled in C= history, to my knowledge, and replaced it with the A600. The A600 was originally the A300, George Robbins idea of a cheaper-than-A500 Amiga; a new line, not a replacement. Sydnes added so much bloat, the A600 was $50 more than the A500, $100 over the goal price.
A1000Jr (ECS) doesn't have Gayle (replacing Fat Gary, add PCMCIA and IDE controllers) and Budgie (cost-reduced Buster/Ramsey, PCMCIA 16 bit buffered link).
https://bigbookofamigahardware.com/b...a5b59146b4.jpg
AA3000+ doesn't have Gayle and Budgie chips. AA500 variant would have Fat Gray, Ramsey, and Super Buster chips. No BOM cost on the PCMCIA slot.
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David Pleasance Interview 2015,
25:46, the 500 did and because the Germans had unbeknown to us the Germans had said to Med we're not going to sell anything that hasn't got hard drive in it so the the idea of a low cost entry level machine was immediately gone and um it was completely utter nonsense that day you know we killed the sales of the 500 by releasing the 600 which was not as good a product um and and then of course not long after that um uh they they I think it was around that time well if if you
David Pleasance's Commodore the Inside Story book has this information.
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So many things can go wrong between out of the box and using product "mostly" out of the box... - out-of-the-box experience is not "mostly" out-of-the-box experience
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That's bullshit. There is no absolutes.
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So true, especially nowadays when no one use HW graphic acceleration and everything is made on fast CPU...
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You're wrong with "nowadays when no one use HW graphic acceleration and everything is made on fast CPU".
At some point, every 2D/3D accelerator becomes decelerator. It happens when a software solution becomes faster than the hardware-assisted one.
De-acceleration is mocked in the gaming PC world. Hardware accelerated solution needs to keep pace ahead of the CPU software solution.
My point is with the late 1980s into early 1990s i.e. A1200's release and R&D phase.