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chip 03 November 2020 21:58

Sharp X68000 music format ?
 
Like for the spectrum machine i was looking for the music format of this machine :rolleyes

Where is here

https://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Special:Modland

the Sharp X68000 music format ? :blased

Estrayk 04 November 2020 00:21

X68000 is a computer with a Yamaha YM2151 8 channel FM chip and an OKI audio chip for ADPCM sounds.
Too much for an Amiga., no players availables I think.

saimon69 04 November 2020 05:45

Someone that use Hoot? Do you remember if using hoot was possible to isolate tracks also for x68000 beside arcade?

There seems to be files readable here:
https://archive.org/details/HootArchive20180626

chip 04 November 2020 07:20

Thanks for the replies guys ....... a difficult one it seems :(

Till now i didn't locate the music format or possible music players, so yet no idea of what it can be actually :blased

Anyway it seems strange to me that it is missing from modland :rolleyes

rothers 04 November 2020 14:55

Commodore should have just licenced the Sharp68000 and called it the Amiga1200...

Foebane 04 November 2020 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by rothers (Post 1438935)
Commodore should have just licenced the Sharp68000 and called it the Amiga1200...

Blasphemer!!

AmigaHope 05 November 2020 03:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foebane (Post 1438945)
Blasphemer!!

Commodore should have licensed the graphics engine from the X68000 and used it in newer Amigas, and maybe added the FM audio chip too. It was better than AGA in 1987, but would benefit from Amiga tweaks (and the vastly better Amiga operating system).

Foebane 05 November 2020 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaHope (Post 1439054)
Commodore should have licensed the graphics engine from the X68000 and used it in newer Amigas, and maybe added the FM audio chip too. It was better than AGA in 1987, but would benefit from Amiga tweaks (and the vastly better Amiga operating system).

The Amiga was its own unique design, not ripping off other hardware, and AGA is great, and Paula is perfectly fine with just PCM audio, none of that synthesized rubbish. Have you not seen ANY of the high-end Amiga AGA demos?

Solo Kazuki 05 November 2020 11:48

@Estrayk
It's not at all too much for Amiga, but question is how powerful. There are 8ch synth formats (e.g. Face The Music) and with powerful CPU You can handle 32ch S3M/XM modules, and even there is DigiBooster 3 with 24b/192kHz support and 128 (or it was 256?) channels with plugins (e.g. TB303 emulation).
But it's true that player is not available (or is it?).

chip 05 November 2020 11:50

I still didn't find anything ..... music player or technical information about the format it could be :(


Strange ..... of all other 16 systems i emulate i perfectly know where to get the music modules :o

Foebane 05 November 2020 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by chip (Post 1439096)
I still didn't find anything ..... music player or technical information about the format it could be :(


Strange ..... of all other 16 systems i emulate i perfectly know where to get the music modules :o

The Sharp X68000 is a Japanese computer platform, so maybe most articles about it are in Japanese?

chip 05 November 2020 17:59

May be :)

saimon69 05 November 2020 19:22

@Chip

I did check with some of my soruces (Luca della Regina on Facebook) and he advise to use Hoot on Windows; it supports x68000, has a player and a way to capture output on wav - i did used to capture clean music instrument samples for a test Rygar piece

https://battleofthebits.org/lyceum/View/hoot/

Going to put a copy in the zone will pvt you

chip 05 November 2020 23:29

Thanks .... i will check it :)

_ThEcRoW 05 November 2020 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foebane (Post 1439080)
The Amiga was its own unique design, not ripping off other hardware, and AGA is great, and Paula is perfectly fine with just PCM audio, none of that synthesized rubbish. Have you not seen ANY of the high-end Amiga AGA demos?


Ripping off other hardware?. If you say it because similarities with capcom´s cps system it is because they based the cps on that computer, and used it as development machines.

Foebane 06 November 2020 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ThEcRoW (Post 1439268)
Ripping off other hardware?. If you say it because similarities with capcom´s cps system it is because they based the cps on that computer, and used it as development machines.

I don't believe you. Besides, I never heard of it.

saimon69 06 November 2020 07:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foebane (Post 1439272)
I don't believe you. Besides, I never heard of it.

I can find several references:
https://retrocomputing.stackexchange...ames-developed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X68000

http://arcadehacker.blogspot.com/201...s1-part-2.html

saimon69 06 November 2020 07:46

Hey Chip,one more thing for the hoop player: create in the player folder a new folder called 'x68k' and store all x68000 songs (even compressed) there.

touko 06 November 2020 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaHope (Post 1439054)
Commodore should have licensed the graphics engine from the X68000 and used it in newer Amigas, and maybe added the FM audio chip too. It was better than AGA in 1987, but would benefit from Amiga tweaks (and the vastly better Amiga operating system).

It's really a nonsense,the X68k use very fast(65 or 45ns chips) and so very expensive RAM/VRAM, this is why is so powerfull .
It's really a pain to read those sort of comparisons which consist to compare apple vs orange,and thinking that just looking at the machine specs is enough to compare both systems .
The amiga was the best system for his price, and not for all systems in the world,the x68k destroys about all systems of that era and after, if you're stopping to read only the specs .
If commodore wanted a powerfull amiga (and of course a really expansive one) it would have been better to sold amigas with the ranger chipset .
And i'am curious to see what's the base X68k can do,because what i saw is really not glorious for the 2000$ of the base system .

DamageX 12 November 2020 00:16

Some X68 game music has been ripped to .VGM format and is playable with VGM input plugin and others. There are also many tracks in .MDX format which can be played with MDXWin or KbMedia player.


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