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Angus 28 February 2024 22:49

Volunteers needed for Air Combat missions
 
Hi all. I was thinking I'd like to go back to some Amiga Flight-sims that I never fully explored. Then I thought it would be fun if several of us gave it a go and shared experiences - like we used to back on the comp.sys.amiga.games newsgroup (newsgroups, remember those?).



All games have a network option if you discuss them afterwards on the internet, right? :-)

*EDIT*
To be clear, that "network" reference was supposed to be humorous, I'm just talking about people playing the game by themselves, in the normal way, and then discussing here on EAB.


I appreciate it might just be me that thinks this is a good idea, which is fine, but if you fancy it, follow-up with a post and we'll see where it goes.



Possible games I had in mind were:


Tornado


Reach For the Skies


Flight of the Intruder


Gunship 2000

copse 29 February 2024 01:19

You could maybe play them on Amiga Live on Twitch, that's a live video network type option?

https://www.twitch.tv/amigalive

dreadnought 29 February 2024 01:43

Nice idea - I would definitely be up for that, if I wasn't being too busy with IRL stuff. Maybe future-wise...

EDIT: wait, you mean just playing and talking about them later, not actual online multiplayer? In that case maybe I could give some of them a short go at least. I love flight sims and they definitely deserve more modern love, what with being one of the dominant genres back then.

Angus 29 February 2024 10:56

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Originally Posted by dreadnought (Post 1671857)
Nice idea - I would definitely be up for that, if I wasn't being too busy with IRL stuff. Maybe future-wise...

EDIT: wait, you mean just playing and talking about them later, not actual online multiplayer? In that case maybe I could give some of them a short go at least. I love flight sims and they definitely deserve more modern love, what with being one of the dominant genres back then.


Yes, sorry - I wasn't very clear. Edited now. I meant each of us playing the game on our own in the normal way, and then discussing experiences in an ongoing thread on EAB.

Angus 29 February 2024 10:57

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Originally Posted by copse (Post 1671854)
You could maybe play them on Amiga Live on Twitch


No, that's not me. I don't have the personality for that. :-)

Daedalus 01 March 2024 09:40

I know you were joking, but there's at least one flight sim that can be played over a serial link - F16 Falcon I think.

TCD 01 March 2024 10:09

Here's a list of those we know of: https://amiga.abime.net/games/list/?...feature-id=100

alexh 01 March 2024 10:19

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Originally Posted by Angus (Post 1671886)
I don't have the personality for that. :-)

That's not true.

Perhaps rope in a retro Twitch celebrity to play Amiga/Atari Flight Sims e.g. https://www.twitch.tv/theoldmanthatgames/about

dreadnought 01 March 2024 10:20

Air Warrior was supposed to be "world's first online multiplayer, multiplatform air/land combat simulator". It'd be pretty cool if somebody could hack it so online MP would be still possible without dialing the non-existent AOL or some such.

Daedalus 01 March 2024 10:42

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Originally Posted by TCD (Post 1672042)

Ah yes, I was mixing up F16 Combat Pilot and Falcon. I've never played it, but it looks like Falcon also has multiplayer over serial but didn't show up in your search, despite having the properties listed... https://amiga.abime.net/games/view/falcon

TCD 01 March 2024 11:16

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Originally Posted by Daedalus (Post 1672053)
Ah yes, I was mixing up F16 Combat Pilot and Falcon. I've never played it, but it looks like Falcon also has multiplayer over serial but didn't show up in your search, despite having the properties listed... https://amiga.abime.net/games/view/falcon

That's odd. I'll ask Cody to have a look at why it's not in the list. Thank you for reporting it.

Angus 01 March 2024 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daedalus (Post 1672053)
Ah yes, I was mixing up F16 Combat Pilot and Falcon. I've never played it, but it looks like Falcon also has multiplayer over serial but didn't show up in your search, despite having the properties listed... https://amiga.abime.net/games/view/falcon


Falcon does. I remember going away on a video job, and my colleague, who was familiar with the digs brought a cable that would stretch to whatever rooms we were put in. (They dropped it for the second mission disk for some reason.) It also warns you if your adversay is cheating by using the autopilot option. :-)


PowerMonger also provided a lot of link-up fun.

Captain_ Kal 01 March 2024 11:59

Gunship 2000, has a game stopping bug, after you take control of a full platoon!! Every guided/unguided weapon misses, and you can only use the machined gun!

Up to that point though, I found it way better than the PC Version!! In the PC version, even at the lowest difficulty, enemy missiles hit you every time!!!! And counter measures are useless!! The Amiga versions also sounds better!!

Aardvark 01 March 2024 12:04

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Originally Posted by Captain_ Kal (Post 1672068)
Gunship 2000, has a game stopping bug, after you take control of a full platoon!! Every guided/unguided weapon misses, and you can only use the machined gun!

Up to that point though, I found it way better than the PC Version!! In the PC version, even at the lowest difficulty, enemy missiles hit you every time!!!! And counter measures are useless!! The Amiga versions also sounds better!!

That has been patched https://aminet.net/package/game/patch/gs2000AGAfix

Captain_ Kal 01 March 2024 16:27

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Originally Posted by Aardvark (Post 1672069)

I think this patch crashes the WDLoad version of the game. When I end a mission (alt + e), it crashes to OS (WinUAE).

Aardvark 02 March 2024 01:12

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Originally Posted by Captain_ Kal (Post 1672111)
I think this patch crashes the WDLoad version of the game. When I end a mission (alt + e), it crashes to OS (WinUAE).

JOTD can probably integrate it to the WHDLoad patch if someone reports it on Mantis http://mantis.whdload.de/main_page.php
Do you have a save game file for reproducing the bug?

Captain_ Kal 02 March 2024 11:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aardvark (Post 1672176)
JOTD can probably integrate it to the WHDLoad patch if someone reports it on Mantis http://mantis.whdload.de/main_page.php
Do you have a save game file for reproducing the bug?

A Save State !! And I can also find a save game. I just do not know the saved games location!!

Aardvark 02 March 2024 12:41

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Originally Posted by Captain_ Kal (Post 1672204)
A Save State !! And I can also find a save game. I just do not know the saved games location!!

Everything is saved in "roster.dat", but I'm not getting any crash after ending the mission. Did you start the game normally or from a save state?

Captain_ Kal 02 March 2024 18:59

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Originally Posted by Aardvark (Post 1672209)
Everything is saved in "roster.dat", but I'm not getting any crash after ending the mission. Did you start the game normally or from a save state?

Both!! It crashed after finishing a 45 minutes mission!!!! I might replay the ECS version since, this bug affected the AGA/CD32 version!!

copse 02 March 2024 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angus (Post 1671886)
No, that's not me. I don't have the personality for that. :-)

To be clear, as I understand it Amiga Live is an existing Twitch channel where you use the Amiga Live client and play a game while other people watch the game. They do not see you or hear you. However you can type in the chat with the people watching. It seems a reasonably popular and positive community.

This is in contrast to what I assume you assumed I meant, creating your own channel and playing the games live. This I was not suggesting, but if you're playing the game and your internet connection is usable it's very easy if you're using WinUAE.


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