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Nobby_UK 14 April 2021 21:38

Amiga Test Kit experts ?
 
Anybody figure out what the grab means ?


I happened after 70 odd passes...
of my Kipper 608



Should I switch the jumper to 4 Meg and retry ?

Nobby_UK 16 April 2021 22:05

Switched to 4 Meg --- it made over 102 passes
Before failing

Loosened the screws holding the 608
and it fell off = Bad Connection

Nobby_UK 17 April 2021 05:33

Left it out --- Machine ran for hours

But eventually rebooted to the Test Disk then gave
me one of those black screens full of numbers :(

Oh dear !

Nobby_UK 19 April 2021 15:30

3 Chips are too hot to touch !
Might try some Heat-Sinks and/or Fans

#Uppdate#
Heat Sinks not helping
U4 still very hot

Fans next --- though why is it SO HOT ?!?!

admiral 20 May 2021 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nobby_UK (Post 1477852)
3 Chips are too hot to touch ! why is it SO HOT ?!?!

Nothing should ever be. Meaning you have some sort of hardware problem. Figure out which chips are hot; I'd guess at least one of them is fux0red.

Nobby_UK 20 May 2021 22:31

As I said U4 = (Super) Denise is Mega Hot

admiral 21 May 2021 08:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nobby_UK (Post 1485497)
As I said U4 = (Super) Denise is Mega Hot

Just in case, check voltages on the running Amiga.

Also, if you can measure power draw on wall, an Amiga 600+ shouldn't draw more than some 16w.

Nobby_UK 21 May 2021 20:43

4.89 @ Floppy port and 4.79 @ LED connector
12.35 @ Floppy port

I don't have a power meter, but do have several psu's

Nobby_UK 22 May 2021 23:32

Oh dear :(
Just a Black Screen now :crying

admiral 23 May 2021 00:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nobby_UK (Post 1486204)
Oh dear :(
Just a Black Screen now :crying

Do not despair. Leave it alone for now.
Has anything changed before all of this started? Like, any new hardware or cable.
Also, since it's an A600, basic debugging involves removing clip-on-cpu expansions; but testing that doesn't need to happen today.

Nobby_UK 23 May 2021 22:51

It's back... :)
Nope, just stated (last month) re-setting,
prob would not have know only there was a floppy in the drive
to show something happened.
Striped to basic (bar 604n ?)--- Fan does cool the chips
But it still crashes :(

admiral 23 May 2021 22:56

It's an A600. If it hasn't been recapped, maybe it is time.
The other common problem is reliability of clip-on-cpu expansion contacts.

Nobby_UK 24 May 2021 19:55

Re-Capped 16/09/2015 with Tantalums.

The only none original thing on board now is the 3.1 ROM

So it must be either a fault on the board or PSU.
Going to swap the PSU --- report back tomorrow.

admiral 24 May 2021 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nobby_UK (Post 1486580)
Re-Capped 16/09/2015 with Tantalums.

The only none original thing on board now is the 3.1 ROM

So it must be either a fault on the board or PSU.
Going to swap the PSU --- report back tomorrow.

4.89v didn't seem too bad. I get spot on (very slightly above) 5v on mine, but it's a fancy new one from c64psu.
Good luck. I hope it really is PSU.

Nobby_UK 25 May 2021 06:14

Well, it was not the PSU ---

It was the ROM ?!?!

Changed it back to the old one (2.05 - 37.350)
Solid as a Rock !

admiral 25 May 2021 06:44

Surreal. Now, I would leave the rom installed for a week or two, to confirm.

Also, how long had the newer rom been installed for? If there was an issue with it, I'm surprised it wouldn't manifest until much later.

Also, keep an eye for those burning hot chips. Maybe they're cold now?

Nobby_UK 25 May 2021 19:15

They are cooler ---

Had the ROM before the Recap

I too was surprised a (relatively) modern chip would fail

admiral 25 May 2021 21:28

Is it a 27c400 EPROM, or else? What's the vendor? Was EPROM window properly covered?

Nobby_UK 25 May 2021 22:30

Has a nice Blue + Boing Ball sticker from Hyperion

admiral 25 May 2021 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nobby_UK (Post 1486879)
Has a nice Blue + Boing Ball sticker from Hyperion

So you paid for it? Only adds insult to injury.

I suggest getting a TL866 clone off aliexpress, and a 27c400/800/etc adapter for it from ebay. This plus some eproms should cost about as much or at least not much more than buying some official pre-burnt rom.

Note you'll have to use the open source burning software (minipro in github/etc), as the official software bricks clones (and is otherwise inferior in every way, as you'd expect).

One of the best purchases I have ever made.


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