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msmalik681 22 September 2022 22:38

Street Fighter 1 - Scorpion Engine
 
So I really hated the conversion of Street Fighter on the Amiga. I think the original could have been much better even the C64 version had the special moves. I can not emphasise enough how bad the original was on the Amiga just play it and see.

I am attempting to remake Street Fighter 1 for the a500 with 512kb of ram. I wanted to target the 1mb model but I am trying to better the original release for Amiga and that game runs on a 512kb Amiga that might be why it is so bad. I have no experience with Amiga coding so this could take a while.

Predseda 22 September 2022 22:47

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Originally Posted by msmalik681 (Post 1566201)
I have no experience with Amiga coding so this could take a while.

Which coding language did you choose?

msmalik681 22 September 2022 22:50

I cant code any Amiga language, I am using Scorpion Engine to code the game.

Predseda 22 September 2022 22:55

There was that SF2 tech demo already, also made in scorpion, and it looked quite potent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ORpCKSOOtg

:great

msmalik681 22 September 2022 23:11

I have seen that video and I would not call it a tech demo. Street Fighter 2 is much more complicated then what you see in that video. On the surface it does look like street fighter 2 cosmetically but that is about it.

I chose not to even attempt SF2 as it is way to complicated and I don't think I could do a better conversion then Super Street Fighter 2 on the a500. But I could make the worst port of Street Fighter 1 and it would be better then this trash : https://youtu.be/jeHs-J7JeVo

saimon69 23 September 2022 00:17

At the time we were saying "Those are made in C" - yup, C compilers were THAT bad

But this is Tiertex, they had the "talent" of screwing it up even if it was made in Assembler

UltraNarwhal 23 September 2022 00:36

Scorpion engine games require 1MB, it's not currently possible to do a 512K game.

msmalik681 23 September 2022 00:51

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Originally Posted by UltraNarwhal (Post 1566215)
Scorpion engine games require 1MB, it's not currently possible to do a 512K game.

Not sure where you got that information. Scorpion Engine is not optimized for memory saving but if you game is slim enough it will fit. I was advised by the developer not to target 512kb but hey this is just for fun.

Tigerskunk 23 September 2022 09:16

I had never seen an arcade Street Fighter back in the day, but I remember playing this on the Amiga and thinking "damn, this is sooo bad and Street Fighter is a shit game".

It was almost unbelievable when the second game became such a hyped phenomenon.

jotd 23 September 2022 10:45

Good thinking: choose a simpler arcade game remake it perfectly.

Not as easy as it seems but still good thinking.

acidbottle 23 September 2022 12:08

To be honest, the original streetfighter was utter trash in the arcade to. Remember a big punch circle you had to smash to punch in-game, was hard as hell! Trying to emulate that gimmick through a computer/console never worked.

It is remarkable that Capcom tuned SF2 into a worldwide phenomenon after that effort.

Not a chance you could get an arcade perfect copy of SF running in 512k in Scorpion currently, but good luck trying. It is often said that make the best game you can without restraint and then slim it down and optimise like mad when done.

msmalik681 23 September 2022 12:15

there will be nothing arcade perfect about this port it will be a heavily cut down version. I am just trying to make something better then the amiga port so I have set the bar very low lol.

dreadnought 23 September 2022 15:09

So, it's about remaking a game that wasn't great to start with, in a heavily cut down way. Hmph. Tbh I'd much rather see anything else made in Scorpion than that, even if it was a pong-level game. But at least it'd be something new.

S0ulA55a551n 23 September 2022 15:38

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Originally Posted by msmalik681 (Post 1566271)
there will be nothing arcade perfect about this port it will be a heavily cut down version. I am just trying to make something better then the amiga port so I have set the bar very low lol.

Does seem a little pointless to set the bar only slightly higher than a really low bar. Would seem a lot of effort for little gain.

But it is your time, you spend it how you like :)

Good luck with the project, I am sure you will learn a lot from it.

Retro1234 23 September 2022 16:39

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Originally Posted by acidbottle (Post 1566270)
It is remarkable that Capcom tuned SF2 into a worldwide phenomenon after that effort.

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Agreed but Final Fight did come in between.

msmalik681 23 September 2022 21:07

Here is a quick video preview of the game graphically it sucks but I will look at touching them up after I have the basic gameplay working.

https://youtu.be/zu8ljCjLZrU

stobros 24 September 2022 20:42

Looks horrible indeed

msmalik681 24 September 2022 22:26

Indeed its does i might take @acidbottles suggestion to make a good port then slim down after.

Tsak 24 September 2022 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by msmalik681 (Post 1566339)
Here is a quick video preview of the game graphically it sucks but I will look at touching them up after I have the basic gameplay working.

https://youtu.be/zu8ljCjLZrU

Nice work done mate! This seems to be moving quite lovely already. Imho choosing SF1 is a smart move. It's much more realistic to pull off (vs trying something like SF2), plus you'll have have ample space to not only improve upon the horrible Amiga port, but also the original arcade as well.

I'm personally quite excited about this (more so since I've read you're also an OpenBOR dev) :great

msmalik681 24 September 2022 23:06

Yeah I feel like i can make anything 2d in openbor but scorpion engine is much more limited but im getting used to it. Only been a week so hopefully I get better over time.

I did not really start this project to please anyone but myself just sharing my progress here. But it is nice to know at least one other person would like to see this game made. Thanks for the support @Tsak.


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