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steveis2 04 December 2020 15:58

Amiga OS 4.1 FE classic on Amigaforever
 
Hi,

I'm thinking of trying the Amiga OS 4.1 in amigafoever. However I'm not sure about how to install it. Do you need to boot from the cdrom or have an adf file to start off? Is it straight forwared or complex. I don't mind which but it would be good to know in advance.
On a different angle are there any depositries of programs that can be run in OS 4.1 and can you run classic programs in it be it an application or a game?



Regards Steve

AMIGASYSTEM 04 December 2020 16:14

AmigaForever uses WinUAE, I enclose a video of me showing how to install OS 4.1 on WinUAE.

I enclose video, since a few days Google Drive doesn't convert my videos, sometimes it happens, if someone has some info I would like it, to see the video you'll have to download it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yTY...ew?usp=sharing

steveis2 04 December 2020 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM (Post 1444381)
AmigaForever uses WinUAE, I enclose a video of me showing how to install OS 4.1 on WinUAE.

I enclose video, since a few days Google Drive doesn't convert my videos, sometimes it happens, if someone has some info I would like it, to see the video you'll have to download it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yTY...ew?usp=sharing




Hi

Thanks for the video. I'll be studying it oever the weekend.


Regards Steve

White 04 December 2020 19:32

here you find a video on how to install 4.1FE using the amigaforever package in all steps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-hJ...ture=emb_title

steveis2 05 December 2020 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by White (Post 1444442)
here you find a video on how to install 4.1FE using the amigaforever package in all steps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-hJ...ture=emb_title


Hi

Thanks for a very detailed video. I never would have worked it out myself. On its basis I have installed OS 4.1 and got an old game called galaga 'nearly working', the fire key didn't work but everything else did.


I haven't suceeded in getting the internet working or figured out how to install something like abiwrite. Are there any guides on how to do those things? But for now atleast it's working and that's a really good result.



Thanks again.


Regards Steve

White 05 December 2020 18:01

here how to activate the internet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF-Ivs0OZ_w

White 05 December 2020 18:11

you can find some suggestions here:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=91368

here instead the "repository" for applications and utilities for 4.1FE
http://os4depot.net/

steveis2 05 December 2020 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by White (Post 1444631)
here how to activate the internet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF-Ivs0OZ_w

here the settings in the control panel for the network card:


Got it working. Thanks

steveis2 05 December 2020 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by White (Post 1444633)
you can find some suggestions here:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=91368

here instead the "repository" for applications and utilities for 4.1FE
http://os4depot.net/




Hi
Plenty to read over the weekend.


Steve

White 06 December 2020 11:36

you can install Abiword
the prerequisite is Amicygnix
you can always find it on osdepot

steveis2 06 December 2020 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by White (Post 1444729)
you can install Abiword
the prerequisite is Amicygnix
you can always find it on osdepot


Hi

I have installed Amicygnix and abiword but it runs a bit slow and runs out of memory if I try to do anything. I think it must be a problem with the emulation per se. On the other hand I've got amiwrite working so it's not a massive problem, if a bit dissapointing.


Regars Steve

White 06 December 2020 15:46

@steveis2
the system update is carried out with update1 this update enables you to use more memory up to a gigabyte of ram
with a registered copy it is possible to download the update1 from the hyperion website and the updates released over time
4.1FE emulation requires a fast processor to be used at its best.

Before purchasing the 4.1FE system it is recommended to have a very fast processor to use the most advanced applications

steveis2 06 December 2020 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by White (Post 1444769)
@steveis2
the system update is carried out with update1 this update enables you to use more memory up to a gigabyte of ram
with a registered copy it is possible to download the update1 from the hyperion website and the updates released over time
4.1FE emulation requires a fast processor to be used at its best.

Before purchasing the 4.1FE system it is recommended to have a very fast processor to use the most advanced applications


Hi,
I do have a registered copy of OS 4.1 but haven't downloaded the update. In terms of emulation, if I install the update could I change the emulation to take advantage of the updates' abilities?.


Steve

White 06 December 2020 20:43

Yes
you can download the update directly from the hyperion website and install it offline (strongly recommended)
this is because the online update of update1 generally fails
after this you will be able to use 1gigabyte of ram memory

also have a look at the suggestions to understand how to do it.
without skipping steps.
you will have to modify the startup-sequence to get the ram increase.
This will be the most tedious but necessary part to best configure the 4.1FE.
You will probably have to try many times to figure out how to configure the system. It only takes patience.
Later you can use uaegfx as a video driver and increase the graphics ram available.

separate note:
using amigaforever you can understand how 4.1FE works so you can install the packages you need and everything will work.
You will experience as with any other system
And how to use the 3.xx workbench for the first time as soon as it is installed you basically can't do anything about it.
The system must be built step by step.
The packages you need are written in the tips.
You can skip the part dedicated to G-Rex and orient yourself on Mediator or you can configure it later.

But it will be an important part later if you want to have a complete 4.1FE system and configure the audio in the right way is to have the right compatibility with some applications.

Once you understand how the installation of the whole system takes place, it will take just 10 minutes to have the whole system ready for use.

If you decide to do a second installation it will be much easier because you will already know what to do.
At that point you will probably feel the need to use winuae directly.

steveis2 07 December 2020 06:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by White (Post 1444830)
Yes
you can download the update directly from the hyperion website and install it offline (strongly recommended)
this is because the online update of update1 generally fails
after this you will be able to use 1gigabyte of ram memory.....

.......once you understand how the installation of the whole system
takes place, it will take just 10 minutes to have the whole system ready for use.

If you decide to do a second installation it will be much easier because you will already know what to do.
At that point you will probably feel the need to use winuae directly.


Hi,
Thank you very much for all the advice and ideas. It will keep me busy for a good while.
I think I will stick with Amigaforever for now and try to improve it as far as I can and then maybe try win-uae. In the meantime by launching an app like AbiWord in standalone mode I've overcome the lack of memory issue and it runs much faster.
It could take some time but I think I will eventually get a very good set up.



Steve





Regards Steve

White 11 December 2020 19:57

here the second part of the tutorial of 4.1FE for AmigaForever network configuration updates installing update1 increasing the ram z3:
https://youtu.be/eCbl3bCssY8


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