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malko 01 May 2021 22:41

Microsoft & Intel using an "Amiga 1000" !
 
Have you seen this advertising where Microsoft & Intel use the picture of an Amiga 1000 ? :lol

https://i.ibb.co/b6Vbtqx/Amiga1000-ms-intel.png


source :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS1t8MdqN-4

redblade 01 May 2021 22:55

Good find, reminds me of that stock photo of the chick holding the soldering iron wrong, not much research done by the photographer or advertising agency.

jotd 02 May 2021 00:52

Great find indeed!

talking about girls holding stuff the wrong way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov1wHKpSVpQ

Matt_H 02 May 2021 02:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by malko (Post 1480568)
Have you seen this advertising where Microsoft & Intel use the picture of an Amiga 1000 ? :lol

https://i.ibb.co/b6Vbtqx/Amiga1000-ms-intel.png


source :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS1t8MdqN-4


Ow, that image hurts. Invoking the 90s by showing an Amiga from the 80s showing a password prompt with design cues from Windows 2000.



Ow, ow, ow. :banghead

Retro1234 02 May 2021 05:20

Amiga 1000 running PC-Task running Windows 95 :D:spin:banghead

probably just used because it has no copyright.

what is the full translation from the advert, anyone?

Hercules 02 May 2021 09:21

Forget Microsoft. Gary Kildall was streets ahead of Microsoft. Gary wrote the CP/M operating system that was promised to be ported to all. Microsoft stole Gary Kildall's idea that MSDOS was based upon. After Gary lost the contract, he turned to alcoholism and died in a bar brawl. Gates was a failed graduate whom stole other ideas. End of discussion.

malko 02 May 2021 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro1234 (Post 1480619)
Amiga 1000 running PC-Task running Windows 95 :D:spin:banghead

probably just used because it has no copyright. [...]

If you zoom a bit, it looks like the computer's brand has been quickly and badly removed. Also the password seems to be 'in clear' (no stars).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro1234 (Post 1480619)
[...] what is the full translation from the advert, anyone?

The full advert (including the second picture representing a laptop but not shown here) translates as :

"In the 90's you had a great password..
Today, you are the password."

Which is far from the slogan I would like to hear since it means that my biometricals informations are "stored/used" by such OS and companies :scream ...
But this is another topic ;) .

Retro1234 02 May 2021 10:32

yes I noticed theres no logos including the monitor, also the Amiga keys appear to be blank.

although the second Alt key looks a bit like an A but it's just a blur..

thanks for the translation.

chiark 02 May 2021 10:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by malko (Post 1480658)
it means that my biometricals informations are "stored/used" by such OS and companies :scream ...
But this is another topic ;) .

It’s also completely wrong. Look up fido standards and windows hello etc: biometric data is held securely, locally. That’s it.

I’ll ask the French team if they’re aware of this campaign…

Bruce Abbott 02 May 2021 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules (Post 1480642)
Forget Microsoft. Gary Kildall was streets ahead of Microsoft. Gary wrote the CP/M operating system that was promised to be ported to all. Microsoft stole Gary Kildall's idea that MSDOS was based upon. After Gary lost the contract, he turned to alcoholism and died in a bar brawl. Gates was a failed graduate whom stole other ideas. End of discussion.

Gary Kildall was streets ahead of Microsoft, who stole his idea? The truth is rather different.

CP/M
Quote:

Many expected that CP/M would be the standard operating system for 16-bit computers. In 1980 IBM approached Digital Research, at Bill Gates' suggestion, to license a forthcoming version of CP/M for its new product, the IBM Personal Computer. Upon the failure to obtain a signed non-disclosure agreement, the talks failed, and IBM instead contracted with Microsoft to provide an operating system.
Microsoft didn't 'steal' anything from CP/M. They purchased 86-DOS from Tim Paterson, who had this to say about it:-

Quote:

Back in 1980... To get major software developers to port their products from the 8080/Z80 to the 8086, I decided we had to make it as easy as possible. I had already written a Z80-to-8086 source code translator (hosted on the 8080 and CP/M). My plan was that running an 8080 CP/M program through the translator would be the only work required by software developers to port the program to the 8086. In other words, the interface used by applications to request operating system services would be exactly the same as CP/M’s after applying the translation rules.
But did he steal this idea from Gary Kildall?

Quote:

The first version in the 16-bit family was CP/M-86 for the Intel 8086 in November 1981... These 16-bit versions of CP/M required application programs to be re-compiled for the new CPUs or if they were written in assembly language, to be translated using tools like Digital Research's XLT86, a program written by Gary Kildall in 1981,

Retro1234 02 May 2021 10:55

what was the first OS to use Dir, echo etc that would be interesting.

Pyromania 02 May 2021 14:06

CP/M and MS-DOS have to be the most complete and utter boring operating systems. I was underwhelmed when I bought an ATOnce card for my A500 in 1989 to run one of them. I played with CP/M on the 128 and it was a yawning experience.

Retro1234 02 May 2021 21:11

this has gone quite off topic
Copying in the computer world has always been happening, Gates is a bit of a Edision he never could come up with the initial idea but once he got an idea he developed it.

malko 02 May 2021 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiark (Post 1480660)
It’s also completely wrong. Look up fido standards and windows hello etc: biometric data is held securely, locally. That’s it. [...]

I won't bet a penny.

ma693541 03 May 2021 08:27

Here you have the story from Wikipedia; DR-DOS et operativsystem for PC-er, opprinnelig utviklet av Gary Kildalls Digital Research og basert på CP/M-86. På slutten av 1980-tallet og begynnelsen av 1990-tallet konkurrerte DR-DOS med Microsofts MS-DOS.

DR-DOS 7.01 er frigitt under en ikke-kommersiell lisens for åpen kildekode, og blir videreutviklet av The DR-DOS/OpenDOS Enhancement Project, stiftet i juli 2002.

malko 03 May 2021 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by ma693541 (Post 1480875)
Here you have the story from Wikipedia; DR-DOS is an operating system for PCs, originally developed by Gary Kildall's Digital Research and based on CP / M-86. In the late 1980s and early 1990s, DR-DOS competed with Microsoft's MS-DOS.

DR-DOS 7.01 is released under a non-commercial open source license, and is being further developed by The DR-DOS / OpenDOS Enhancement Project, established in July 2002.

Better to post directly in UK. Translated quote...

ma693541 03 May 2021 15:38

Thanks malko for that translation.

YouKnowWho 03 May 2021 18:54

Maybe....it is THIS Amiga 1000 that is in this photo?

https://www.techrepublic.com/a/hub/i...4f8c8/4606.jpg

YouKnowWho 03 May 2021 19:17

THIS is classy!

https://www.techrepublic.com/a/hub/i...4f8c8/4610.jpg

malko 05 May 2021 10:39

Where did you put the screen ? ;)


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