While it is appreciated you came here abd assembled a team from here, it's all about you and your products? Or am i missing something. You came HERE looking for help and you got it.. Then you use eab to only promote your game. Yes that is great, but you then link to your patreon for something so trivial.. You can't have everything. If you post here, run a development thread for your games, then i am sorry, accept and appropriately deal with criticism without feeling threatened..

Can we just calm down, everybody... ?

Love to. EAB used to be a great forum for exchange of thoughts on several topics including - sorry - my own games. Now EAB seems just broken to me, so much so that several EAB members call me up and ask what the hell is going on here.

I am so tired of it.

Please, let's calm down, we are all grown people here, this is just lame.

My post came up after an internal discussion with our own mods and after reading the thread. I was not send by Richard! Maybe it was not a good idea, maybe some people will reflect about their behavior, who knows...

"hey, there's trouble brewing at t'EAB boards, lad"

"Yup. We needs to sort them there EAB mods out, tha needs to go and have a word. Can't be avin' mods on another forum behavin' 'owever they want."

"on it."

I have the impression that you have significantly changed this posting today - is that so? There was a different text yesterday.

Is it possible to block threads so they don’t appear in “Today’s Posts”.....?

Not that I need to explain myself or my edits but...

No, not all. You can clearly see the times... I originally made the post at 1:13am... and made a few slight changes by 1:40am after thinking some more / re-reading i.e. quoted Retro-Nerd's post and added the 2 sentences after that.

I don't see what this has to do with anything, or the point you're trying to make?

Don't think so. According to the timestamps, "Created 03:13am, Edited 03:40am" (jetlag here in CH)

Edit: see Damien post right now

A couple of salient points here:

1). This thread is off to a bad start the instant it aired out in public a grievance that could have been kept private until resolved.

2). This thread then opted to highlight that grievance with the thumbs down icon just to highlight the issue further

3). It is quite easy if you can't figure out how to contact a mod, to have put a much less divisive thread baiting topic/content by simply making a thread saying "Can a moderator please contact me by PM to discuss something."
That, would have been the logical and RESPECTFUL thing to do, (whilst we're talking about respect).

4). The presumption that discussions/problems on another Amiga board need this kind of "intervention" is odd. People on this board don't go wading into problems on other boards and get involved.

5). Richard HAS to accept criticism, the good and the bad. I get bad criticism often, its water off a ducks back to me. So long as its constructed with the fair intention to tell me something, i'm all good with that. If its rude criticism, they get a cheery "fuck off" from me, and anyone reading it would usually agree with that sentiment.

6). Richard isn't the only one that has to accept criticism, anyone on this board should be expected to receive it, same rule applies, if its done in the spirit of bringing attention to something with a view to a resolution, then everyone wins.

7). This thread with its skewed setup, was NEVER going to achieve a harmonious resolution, in fact, its kinda just extended a thread that was closed.


So, the takeaway from all of this is thus:

People on here accept that Richard and anyone else can charge whatever the hell they like for a boxed version of their games, the relative expense of putting the package together kinda demands it.

People on here have also expressed their opinions and pointed out that the digital download price varies quite considerably in comparison to the boxed version, and they would be happy to contribute/buy a digital version that they felt was competitively priced against other digital downloads.

Richard doesn't need to accept that, and again, can charge what he likes for the digital download of his games, but the fact is, the market will ultimately decide, not Richard.

Discussions can sometimes get robust and forthright, we're adults, we take on board the criticism or we take our ball in and don't play anymore.

I think this thread needs to be locked, its continuing a subject EVERYONE has spoken up on, Richard now knows peoples opinions on digital download pricing, its up to him if he wants to do anything about it

Peace, and love and all that fluffy stuff, but can this subject just retire now?

I couldn't remember this part exactly and had a different context in mind.


and would have found it strange after my posting.

Which is still valid! I have been registered here for 13 years - how often have I given advice how to run EAB?

:great

If I was able to write decently in English I would have written the same things :)

@Galahad : :great

And yes, that's precisely what the a1k mods are proposing to do.

"The mods at EAB are participating in threads and voicing their opinions. We don't like that here at a1k, so we need to go and tell them to stop it"

Can you really not see the problem here?

Thank you for your wise words. May I add these comments:

• A wise developer will never decide about pricing on his own. He will discuss such topics with all involved parties and especially the community. This is true for my games too. This may be of interest for future discussions.
  
  
• All EAB members should stick to EAB rules, and never should they troll games or individuals.
  
  
• Mods should stick to the original meaning of the verb "moderate", which is the rejection of radical or extreme views.

Some valid points made here.

@buzzybee. The mods do moderate, but at the same time we are just as entitled as then next person to have an opinion and feelings on different things. After all we are just as passionate about Amiga as the next person. Where we do get involved so deeply, we don't moderate, we let the non-participating mods moderate to keep the balance fair. We will not use our mod position to influence, edit, moderate etc as that would be wrong and immoral.

I am closing this thread now. There is to be no further heated discussions about this now in public. If anyone feels the need please send any GM or RCK a private message, we will be more than happy to discuss in private. Let's just put a line under all of this now.

Thanks everyone