Banshee [REQUEST]
 

Hi guys.

Did someone rip maps from Banshee?
I'm asking before I even start to crack maptapper altogether.

There are some rips here.

I'd say if it's not in HOL, it hasn't been done so crack on... :)

:)

good luck, the maps of banshee could have already been done but the problem is that the game tiles uses different amount of bitplanes.

as far as i remember some tiles uses 4 bitplanes and some 5 or so....

i always got problems to rip them in one rush...

any news ???

Sorry for late reply. I have done several attempts, but so far none of them got any (satisfying) results.

ok, i was already able to change some tiles inside a savestat without crashing the game....

as you can already see the "ocean" tiles seems to be not tilebased...only the unmoveable enemies are tilebased....

i wish to have some more free time to work it out....:crying

another interesting information is that all tiles are 6 bitplanes depth. but some are using a mask and it is not possible to rip them in one way with the tool. first tile has 7 bitplanes and the last bitplane is a mask. tile 2+3 are pure 6 bitplanes..without mask.

the indexes seems to point to the start offset of each tile...this means when i've got the base adress for the tiles you have to write a little program to extract the bitplanes and then recolor them in one way....

much work, but i think worth enough....:great

ok, i took the time to have a deeper look at the game and i was wrong that the "ocean" tiles are not tilebased...they are and after writing a little program i was able to replace the whole indexes...see picture 2

Wow, that's awesome!

In my attempts I saw the different number of bitplanes, but I thought that one bitplane is treated as a mask and is skipped (per tile, not all tiles have a mask). I'm not an expert so I can be wrong. But then again - you confirmed something similar.

I remember that Magic Pockets PC files are kept this way, although all 'tiles' there had a mask. When I skipped it, everything was fine (including colors).

Anyway, my plan was to rip all the tiles and put them together one per one, then use the map indexes with prepared tile sheet. Too bad it is a long run and I can just afford few hours per week in total, so it can/could take decades.

Did you write the tool or did it by hand?

I'm already working together with Codetapper to solve the problem. My thoughts are that the game itself uses some kind of lookup table to get the right pointer to each tile and decide if 6 or 7 bitplanes are used.
THIS lookup table was already found by myself. So please don't waste you're time to put each tile by tile together...it can be done with a tool that needs to be written soon.

Anything will follow soon. Give Codetapper and me some days to investigate the other stuff......:spin

BTW: yes, i'm writing some tools by myself to understand those custom formats....

hi joe,
could you explain how you did this ?

maybe later when we (Codetapper and myself) finished the work on it...;)


EDIT: you can see that we are able to change something..;)

ripping the tiles is done as soon as possible...
the complicated stuff is that we have to add bitplanes by hand (or let a program doing it), but until now everything looks like we are on the right way...:)

You guys are doing a fine job. One thing that looks like trouble is when the big bombers and subs appear on level 1. The ocean keeps scrolling until these are destroyed. Later on a heavy fog bank obscures the map. Anyway good luck with it. :)

Whoa! Great stuff!

Hi. Did it go well?
I really can't wait for this one... though your approach required a lot of work and skill, so probably I should just sit still.

I've spent half an hour today to work on it.
Look at the result. There is still one kind of tile that makes me headaches, but i think i'm on the right way to solve the problem....;)

Sorry for waiting, but I still have a real life with wife and kids..;)

EDIT: same method works with stage 2 too....

Improved map
 

Here is a test map made from Joe's tiles. All the craters and bombed out lighthouse remind me of Blood Money where the gun emplacements defaulted to destroyed on the initial map. The good guns were later stamped on top. The fog is no problem after all. The repeating section of track at end boss clipped at arbitrary length.

EDIT:
There exist files on disk named level1f - level4f and bossf. These contain information about the maps. They first need to be unpacked with RNC tool. Offset $a shows start of map and offset $16 is end+1. This means we can determine exactly the size of map without the intermediate bosses stretching it out.

These data still need to be processed into a map but the area of code that needs to be reassembled is compact. It is already done and all five maps produced. Each file size is perfectly divisible by 48 and also tells the exact height to use in Maptapper.

Look how much shorter it is.

looks good...:great

Are there any informations about the map data that you like to share with us?

I'll continue the work o nthe tiles...:)

Carry out these steps before the level starts and with WinUAE paused. This thing just logs writes to tile index and copies them to an unused block of memory.
Use loaded map in Maptapper with type: word and width: 24