ClassicWB newicons problem

Calabazam · 13 August 2023, 01:32

Hi.

I am using ClassicWB on my Amiga 600 with kick 3.1 and ACA630.

I am experiencing an annoying problem with newicons. Those icons are set in the newicons prefs to no border and in scalps prefs as transparent, and the icons indeed do this, except for every icon of new stuff i am installing such as Ibrowse. No amount of tinkering in prefs seems to allow to have every icon with no border.
If I remove transparent from scalos prefs, no incon at all has border.

Maybe is there a conflict here between scalos and something else.
Any idea about this? If I can’t find a solution, I would rather ditch scalos completely because it just feels slow and clumsy.

Thanks.

Calabazam · 29 October 2023, 23:50

Still trying to fix this annoying icon problem with ClassicWB ADV.

Every new thing i install has bordered icons. Still can't find it.

Anyone knows how to fix this before i remove ClassicWB and reinstall a clean OS?

Nor Bert · 30 October 2023, 02:02

Are these new icons of NEWICONS standard ?
Share sample icons.

derSammler · 30 October 2023, 07:50

First thing I would do is to install PeterK's latest IconLib. May fix your issue already.

AMIGASYSTEM · 30 October 2023, 08:40

@Calabazam

If you are referring to the native icons of 'ClassicWB AVD', the icon border is not a real border, but part of the icon graphics, so you can remove it.

Calabazam · 30 October 2023, 22:29

Here is the problem. Icons installed with ClassicWB are fine but anything new keeps border, whatever i change in Scalos setup or newicons prefs.

AMIGASYSTEM · 30 October 2023, 22:46

Can you attach some of 'your' icons so that I can test them on ClassicWB ADV?

Nor Bert · 30 October 2023, 22:49

Share the icon file. I will check on my system.

Calabazam · 31 October 2023, 00:00

Here are three icons, the icon drawer of IBrowse and two prefs icons which have borders.

Thanks.

EctoOne · 31 October 2023, 01:29

Can't you disable those borders with RAWBInfo or set the NoBorder tooltype (or whatever it is called) in CopyIcon?

AMIGASYSTEM · 31 October 2023, 04:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calabazam

Here are three icons, the icon drawer of IBrowse and two prefs icons which have borders.

Thanks.

The icons you attached are not the same as the ones you have on the screenshot!

Your icons on my Classic ADV have no border, but the WarpDT and SLEFF icons are corrupted (on WarpDT there are no more colours, SLEFF has a second face with the border integrated in the graphics)

No problem and no border on the iBrowser icon (NewIcons)

Scalos has its own icon manager, probably your Classic ADV has been modified.

What did you change, did you mix system files from other Amiga OS ?

derSammler · 31 October 2023, 08:37

Quote:

The icons you attached are not the same as the ones you have on the screenshot!

It's most likely an info file which has various icon formats combined so that the system can choose the best one it can display.

I would - again - recommend installing PeterK's latest icon library.

AMIGASYSTEM · 31 October 2023, 09:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by derSammler

It's most likely an info file which has various icon formats combined so that the system can choose the best one it can display.

I would - again - recommend installing PeterK's latest icon library.

No even if you install Peterk's library it can't fix it, first because some icons are corrupted and others no colour.

I did not install the Icon.library on purpose for testing, and had no problems hiding the border.

Then as mentioned he has a problem on ClassicWB, Scalos has its own icon manager "Iconobject.library" which is not working properly

To solve this, you must install ClassicVB ADV clean!

Calabazam · 31 October 2023, 14:27

Yes i have included the first bad icons i could copy.

I already have an alternate icon.library, which is the latest available from Aminet, i don't know if that's the one you are refering to.
I don't think i modified anything regarding icons apart from this lib which i tried out of despair.

I have also stopped ScalOS (it seems it launch itself from a modified LoadWB command after it has renamed the original one). Without ScalOS, these icons above are still visible but all others are white dots.
I'm going to look if i can restore iconobject.library without a full resinstallation to avoid erasing all my stuff. If not, i think i will just reinstall a clean OS to my taste from floppy disks. I'm not fond at all of ScalOS and i did install this version of ClassicWB out of lazyness to restore the A600 after years of storage because of keyboard failures.

Thanks for your help.

AMIGASYSTEM · 31 October 2023, 15:40

I do not know which version and which type of Peterk's Icon.library you have installed.

On OS3.0/3.1, in order to use Peterk's Icon.library, it is not enough to copy the icon.library to Libs, but you have to disable the Icon.library "present in Kickstart" via a command in the Startup-Sequence.

If you don't do this, the Icon.library copied to Libs will be ignored, in practice even if you delete the icon.library from Libs, Scalos will still start.

13 August 2023, 01:32	#1
Calabazam Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Posts: 479	ClassicWB newicons problem Hi. I am using ClassicWB on my Amiga 600 with kick 3.1 and ACA630. I am experiencing an annoying problem with newicons. Those icons are set in the newicons prefs to no border and in scalps prefs as transparent, and the icons indeed do this, except for every icon of new stuff i am installing such as Ibrowse. No amount of tinkering in prefs seems to allow to have every icon with no border. If I remove transparent from scalos prefs, no incon at all has border. Maybe is there a conflict here between scalos and something else. Any idea about this? If I can’t find a solution, I would rather ditch scalos completely because it just feels slow and clumsy. Thanks.

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29 October 2023, 23:50	#2
Calabazam Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Posts: 479	Still trying to fix this annoying icon problem with ClassicWB ADV. Every new thing i install has bordered icons. Still can't find it. Anyone knows how to fix this before i remove ClassicWB and reinstall a clean OS?

30 October 2023, 02:02	#3
Nor Bert Norbert Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Poland Posts: 129	Are these new icons of NEWICONS standard ? Share sample icons.

30 October 2023, 07:50	#4
derSammler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 1,666	First thing I would do is to install PeterK's latest IconLib. May fix your issue already.

30 October 2023, 08:40	#5
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,257	@Calabazam If you are referring to the native icons of 'ClassicWB AVD', the icon border is not a real border, but part of the icon graphics, so you can remove it.

30 October 2023, 22:29	#6
Calabazam Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Posts: 479	Here is the problem. Icons installed with ClassicWB are fine but anything new keeps border, whatever i change in Scalos setup or newicons prefs.

30 October 2023, 22:46	#7
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,257	Can you attach some of 'your' icons so that I can test them on ClassicWB ADV?

30 October 2023, 22:49	#8
Nor Bert Norbert Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Poland Posts: 129	Share the icon file. I will check on my system.

31 October 2023, 01:29	#10
EctoOne Registered User Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Germany Posts: 370	Can't you disable those borders with RAWBInfo or set the NoBorder tooltype (or whatever it is called) in CopyIcon?

31 October 2023, 14:27	#14
Calabazam Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Posts: 479	Yes i have included the first bad icons i could copy. I already have an alternate icon.library, which is the latest available from Aminet, i don't know if that's the one you are refering to. I don't think i modified anything regarding icons apart from this lib which i tried out of despair. I have also stopped ScalOS (it seems it launch itself from a modified LoadWB command after it has renamed the original one). Without ScalOS, these icons above are still visible but all others are white dots. I'm going to look if i can restore iconobject.library without a full resinstallation to avoid erasing all my stuff. If not, i think i will just reinstall a clean OS to my taste from floppy disks. I'm not fond at all of ScalOS and i did install this version of ClassicWB out of lazyness to restore the A600 after years of storage because of keyboard failures. Thanks for your help.

31 October 2023, 15:40	#15
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,257	I do not know which version and which type of Peterk's Icon.library you have installed. On OS3.0/3.1, in order to use Peterk's Icon.library, it is not enough to copy the icon.library to Libs, but you have to disable the Icon.library "present in Kickstart" via a command in the Startup-Sequence. If you don't do this, the Icon.library copied to Libs will be ignored, in practice even if you delete the icon.library from Libs, Scalos will still start.

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