WinUAE backup for live A1200?

Mr B · 28 June 2012, 20:53

Ok, so i might be stupid, but since i used WinUAE to set up my system, i decided to make a backup, and further mods i could simply do to the hdf rather then writing to the CF over and over. So, i told WinUAE to make a hdf of the CF, that should get me both partitions. (It's currently working, 4GB seams to take a couple of minutes.) When i'm in need of using the backup, or if i made additions i want to transfer, i should be able to stick the hdf as mian drives, andboot WinUAE, quick format the CF's partitions, and use "copy CFDH0: DH0: all clone >NIL:" to get whats on the current hdf transfered, right? (That only covers the first partition tho... Has to be repeated for the second partition, and the drives altered.)

Perhaps i'm not the easiest to understand, but i tried to get the vital bits in, and leave the rest out. So, here comes my question. Did i miss anything. Is there a easier way to do this, that i just haven't thought of? I could easily make some sort of backup using a number of softwares, but this way i get to play with my current setup on WinUAE, without unpacking anything, and it's easy enough to make copies before i start hacking in to my backup. This all will probably be quite vital later on when i try and hack together whats needed to get my wireless network going on the miggy. Not that i'll ever use it for much, but i just happened to have the stuff laying around anyway... And who knows, i might end up doing as others i've seen here, post from the Amiga.

johnim · 28 June 2012, 21:00

hi in a way yes

but it is easyier to make 2 folders on pc 1 for dh0 and 1 for dh1 and copy all files into each. then make a copy of them and use your second copy to play with.

to restore just copy back to cf

you shouldnt need to reformat cf

Mr B · 29 June 2012, 01:47

I thought of simply making directories, but i sort of figured that some file attributes gets messed up when / if the files are moved, or other-ways tampered with by windows. I sort of sadly turned away from this option, as it would have been easier to edit files from windows rather then from the Amiga interface, but then again, thats just coz i'm more used to windows, and i need to learn how to use the Amigas tools.

Quick-formating the CF is simply so i know there isn't old files i no longer use laying around. Since i'll over-write old files with the same one either way, it shouldn't make any difference when it comes to wear on the CF, and such. In the long run it might "save" me a few kb of space, or so was my theory.

Mendel · 29 June 2012, 08:11

Ever installed classicwb? You know how you create system.zip for installing that? Well, I use dopus and make backups by making system.lha from all contents of dh0:, then work.lha and tools.lha for following partitions. (I put the lha files simply to a pc folder).

Then I have a system.hdf that I made for originally installing classicwb. I boot from that and include for example an empty cf card and the backup folders... then its just a matter of leaving the pc and winuae to unlha the packages to cf partitions.

johnim · 29 June 2012, 08:26

i use folders myself and edit within winuae not windows and have never had problems

Mr B · 29 June 2012, 11:10

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Originally Posted by Mendel

Ever installed classicwb?

Yes. It's currently running ClassicWB ADVSP

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mendel

You know how you create system.zip for installing that?

quite honestly, no. I only recently figured out how to use dopus for unpacking stuff, like WHDLoads, and i figure one of the other buttons does compression.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mendel

Then I have a system.hdf that I made for originally installing classicwb. I boot from that and include for example an empty cf card and the backup folders... then its just a matter of leaving the pc and winuae to unlha the packages to cf partitions.

Nifty backup, but not really letting you "work" from the backup, and continue to tweak the system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnim

i use folders myself and edit within winuae not windows and have never had problems

I'm guessing it's my inexperienced approach that does it. "Better safe then sorry" and all that, if you know what i mean? I keep reading about stuff not working coz peoplle did this or that to the map they installed a WinUAE system in, and it broke. Your advice is good advice, and if nothing else will be here for when the next guy wants to know how to do it.

28 June 2012, 20:53	#1
Mr B Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 634	WinUAE backup for live A1200? Ok, so i might be stupid, but since i used WinUAE to set up my system, i decided to make a backup, and further mods i could simply do to the hdf rather then writing to the CF over and over. So, i told WinUAE to make a hdf of the CF, that should get me both partitions. (It's currently working, 4GB seams to take a couple of minutes.) When i'm in need of using the backup, or if i made additions i want to transfer, i should be able to stick the hdf as mian drives, andboot WinUAE, quick format the CF's partitions, and use "copy CFDH0: DH0: all clone >NIL:" to get whats on the current hdf transfered, right? (That only covers the first partition tho... Has to be repeated for the second partition, and the drives altered.) Perhaps i'm not the easiest to understand, but i tried to get the vital bits in, and leave the rest out. So, here comes my question. Did i miss anything. Is there a easier way to do this, that i just haven't thought of? I could easily make some sort of backup using a number of softwares, but this way i get to play with my current setup on WinUAE, without unpacking anything, and it's easy enough to make copies before i start hacking in to my backup. This all will probably be quite vital later on when i try and hack together whats needed to get my wireless network going on the miggy. Not that i'll ever use it for much, but i just happened to have the stuff laying around anyway... And who knows, i might end up doing as others i've seen here, post from the Amiga. __________________ B! Amiga 1200 with ACA 1230/56, Indivision AGA MKII, 4GB CF & 20GB HD (thanks Brian). Workbench 3.1. Otherways stock. Future plans: None, right now.

28 June 2012, 21:00	#2
johnim Amibay Mod/Staff Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: birmingham uk Age: 37 Posts: 820	hi in a way yes but it is easyier to make 2 folders on pc 1 for dh0 and 1 for dh1 and copy all files into each. then make a copy of them and use your second copy to play with. to restore just copy back to cf you shouldnt need to reformat cf __________________ A1200T 1d4:blizzard 1260/50/192mb/scsi kit:mediator 1200:radeon 9250:sb128:100mb net:spider usb clone:fastata-iv:amiga to ps2 mouse:80gb hd:zip100 ide:a4000 keyboard A1200D 1d4:blizzard1230mk4/50/scsikit/128mb:indy mk ii:fastata mk ii:40gb A1200 rev 2b2 x A1200 1d4A1200 1bA600 2mb 4gbA500cd32 x2cdtv= sfs cf guide http://eab.abime.net/support-hardware/61048-cf-hardrive-guide-sfs.html cwb3.9 guidehttp://eab.abime.net/support-winuae/61180-installing-cwb-os39-winuae-scratch.html

29 June 2012, 01:47	#3
Mr B Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 634	I thought of simply making directories, but i sort of figured that some file attributes gets messed up when / if the files are moved, or other-ways tampered with by windows. I sort of sadly turned away from this option, as it would have been easier to edit files from windows rather then from the Amiga interface, but then again, thats just coz i'm more used to windows, and i need to learn how to use the Amigas tools. Quick-formating the CF is simply so i know there isn't old files i no longer use laying around. Since i'll over-write old files with the same one either way, it shouldn't make any difference when it comes to wear on the CF, and such. In the long run it might "save" me a few kb of space, or so was my theory. __________________ B! Amiga 1200 with ACA 1230/56, Indivision AGA MKII, 4GB CF & 20GB HD (thanks Brian). Workbench 3.1. Otherways stock. Future plans: None, right now.

29 June 2012, 08:26	#5
johnim Amibay Mod/Staff Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: birmingham uk Age: 37 Posts: 820	i use folders myself and edit within winuae not windows and have never had problems __________________ A1200T 1d4:blizzard 1260/50/192mb/scsi kit:mediator 1200:radeon 9250:sb128:100mb net:spider usb clone:fastata-iv:amiga to ps2 mouse:80gb hd:zip100 ide:a4000 keyboard A1200D 1d4:blizzard1230mk4/50/scsikit/128mb:indy mk ii:fastata mk ii:40gb A1200 rev 2b2 x A1200 1d4A1200 1bA600 2mb 4gbA500cd32 x2cdtv= sfs cf guide http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=61048 cwb3.9 guidehttp://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=61180

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29 June 2012, 08:11	#4
Mendel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Kokkola/Finland Posts: 71	Ever installed classicwb? You know how you create system.zip for installing that? Well, I use dopus and make backups by making system.lha from all contents of dh0:, then work.lha and tools.lha for following partitions. (I put the lha files simply to a pc folder). Then I have a system.hdf that I made for originally installing classicwb. I boot from that and include for example an empty cf card and the backup folders... then its just a matter of leaving the pc and winuae to unlha the packages to cf partitions.

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