Maverick357

I have receive my original cd-rom of the new Amiga OS 3.9, but there is a BIG problem because when i copy it on my hd (for installing purpose), the computer freeze allways on the same file:
.../dosdriver/AUX.

If i cannot copy it on my hd, how can i install it on my virtual Amiga HD ?

Have somebody a solution ?
Have somebody have installed on WinUAE before ?


Please help me, i can't find a solution.

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Amigaboy

hmmm

That's very weird since it should copy fine....

Have you tried copying it from DOS/Command Line?

Amigaboy

ok. I just tried it from my Amiga OS3.9 CD

I tried:

- Copying it from Windows .... I wasn't allowed
- Copying it from a command line ..... Access Denied

I then looked at the properties of the file...Windows has trouble recognising it's details

I then tried decided to boot up my emulated Workbench and try from that....Even though there's an AUX.info , the file didn't show up. I showed all files and I saw it. I tried to copy it and Workbench went into an infinite loop

Bleh. I think all distributions of OS3.9 must have had this bug....That sux.

If you have the OS3.5 CD, you can try copying it from there, since the file is in the Workbench 3.5 directory

Maverick357

No, i don't have the cd-rom of AmigaOS 3.5.
But there is a directory with a light version of Amiga OS 3.5.
The files are not there.

In fact (what i can see in dos command line), the AUX on system Dos/Windows, the AUX is an driver for peripherals like Con: or PRT: .
And in the command line, it is useless to copy it because the name of the file have only 8.3 format name.

Dos/Win9x is really a big shit !!!

I cannot copy the files from 'Emergency-boot/Storage/Dosdrivers/...' and not from any others directory/files that uses the same name than an dos driver !!! :kill

My cd-rom of Amiga OS 3.9 (and every cd-rom version will be the same !!!) is useless because dos/windows is a masterpiece of shit.

After many try, it is hopeless because the computer freeze totally or i get the well know 'blue screen'.

.:kill :kill :kill :kill :kill Window 9x and above, i want my Amiga OS back, give it me back !!!

I am sure this problem will never be with the wonderfull Linux.

Amigaboy

Yeah. Windows can't handle the Amiga's filename, but that doesn't explain why when I was in Workbench, it couldn't copy either

Maverick357

Because the emulator use windows OS for all Disk and I/ O operations

Amigaboy

hmmm

I recall being able to use files that Windows couldn't use within WinUAE....Maybe I'm dreaming

I'll see if I can copy the file over tomorrow on another OS (NetBSD )

Steve

Probably because it's still Windoze that's copying the file behind the scenes. That fact that your in WinUAE Workbench doesn't really matter. It's a PC hardware your running the program on and all file operation go through that. Maybe if you had access to an Amiga you could copy it to that and then zip it or LHA it and then copy it to the PC and extract it to Workbench. That's the theory anyway.

Doh. I was too slow in posting....

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Amigaboy

hmmm. I just tried again

Someone explain this one then

In that same directory, there's more files. These other files are copyable by Windows.....The only files that are UNCopyable by windows are AUX and AUX.info ... That means the directory the files are in doesn't matter. Windows is capable of supporting this

So tell me this...What's so special about AUX?

(btw - Isn't AUX in Workbench 3.1? Can't you just take it from there? I don't think it's changed much)

Maverick357

No, i can't unzip an Amiga file on my pc that have an not 'Dos' format because i have get the problem with somes tools from Aminet that contains pure 'Amiga name file format'.
And the zip tools extractor whas unable to get it (corrupt zip file, file unzip stopped) or completely crash the directory (need to use some scandisk to repair !!!).

No, Dos/Winxx is just a OS of 1982 and stay with requirement of 1982.
It is hopeless.

Maverick357

With Dos/windows, the files AUX, com1, com2, con, ect...
is names of peripherals.
In fact, AUX is the acces (with dos only ??) to the serial interface.
If i try to copy AUX, the stupid Dos/Windows do not try to copy the file, but the datas from the serial interface :kill

Amigaboy

aaaah!

That explains it. hmph. That sux ass

Then you were right. It's uncopyable from Windows

TikTok

>If i try to copy AUX, the stupid Dos/Windows do not try to copy >the file, but the datas from the serial interface

In that case, I think it will be completely impossible to copy using any version of windows :eek You're gonna have to use Linux or maybe even a Mac I'm afraid....wow, Microsoft really know how to complicate things.

[EDIT:] Oops, Amigaboy beat me to it

ptrchiappe

If you have access to an amiga, you can try copying it on a disk, make an adf of the disk and then copy to your HD from the adf file (probably you should create an HD-File)

In this way DOS/Win won't even see a file called AUX, and it should not give errors.

ptrchiappe

I made a simple test and i think that it should work:

I opened an adf which contained some files and renamed one of them to "aux" (and with that WinUAE took me back to Windows, but the file was renamed).

Then (after restarting WinUAE) i copied the aux file to my workbench partition (which is a normal windows directory) and everything went well.

I include a snap from explorer in which i have pu a little evidence to that aux file (notice that windows IS displaying a directory which contains a reserved filename).

I don't know what happens if i double click on that file

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Maverick357

yes, i see what you have done but it is useless because when you (or any program) will try to open/read it, the OS/computer will crash

Try to double click on it, and... freeze land is back, enjoy

I never really loved the Dos/Windows OS, and now you can see why:kill

If i can copy AUX to my real hd, when i will use the setup of Amiga OS 3.9, both the Amiga OS 3.1 and the windows OS will be crashed and i have too much datas on my 2 hds to start a new install from scratch (hd1 = 17 Gb, hd2 = 80 Gb).
It will be a nightmare to all re-install again .

After all win9x install, i need a day to re-install the basic OS and a full 2 weeks to re-install all software.

I don't want crash everithing again:disgusted :disgusted :disgusted

dAbOTZ

1) Throw away the Amiga
2) Get Linux


...BANG! dAbOTZ lose all his vital points. Do you want to restart (y/n)?

Akira

Bah, Linux is UTTER SHITE, and an Amiga should NEVER be thrown away.

AmigaOS is IMO the best OS ever done. Best balance between power and user friendliness.. I havent tried the latest versions though, its probable that they fucked'em up, but how?

Quantoman33

the only known way to move "AUX" to pc ..at least for me from OS3.9 was to "WINRAR" the directory and any file<s> and move it to windows and un rar it there.. the reason as far as i can tell is most versions of windows and dos if i recall recignize the name "AUX" as a valid "Protected Functioning" directory.. easy way to explain it is ..some files in windows and does ya can't delete cause windows says they are in use... same idea..windows thinks your stealing a "Active" directory windows uses when it don't... thats the oddity of windows folks anyway... i know if you RAR the directory..tho i forgot how... you can get it transfered to windows and unrar it if all else fails ya.. try it.. i fortunitly have it copied to a spare CD

good luck

Dan,
//admin: please don't use direct signature in your post, configure your UcerCP instead.

Steve

Just tried copying my AUX and AUX.info files on Windows 2000 and there was no problem. I'm using the Workbench 3.1 version. I then tried zipping it and unarchiving it. Again no problem. I've uploaded the zip to the ADF Zone so you can all try it out.