72pin SIMM

Boo Boo · 21 August 2006, 22:17

Hi I just want to add more memory to my Cobra accelerator http://www.amiga-hardware.com/ and 72 pin memory what will work and more what wont Stuff like 70ns and double-sided?

keropi · 21 August 2006, 22:36

since you obviously don't have a simm, why not order one from amigakit.com ? they have a range of simms, and in good prices too!
I just got 2x32MB for my csppc, and they were brand new too!
any 72pin simm will do, I would get a 64MB if I were in your place...

Smiley · 21 August 2006, 22:52

I bought four 32mb SIMMs for £11 posted off Ebay.

Maybe good to check there first

DDNI · 21 August 2006, 22:57

No don't use EBay for things like Simms!!!

Support AmigaKit!!!!

They are the ONLY UK based Amiga supplier left!
Their prices for Simms are good. They will also switch the Simm if you find it to be incompatible.

Unknown_K · 21 August 2006, 23:03

Since when are generic SIMMs Amiga related? Do you buy your fish n chips from AmigaKit also?

keropi · 21 August 2006, 23:13

I came across some simms that did not work on an amiga, but fine on a 486... just my 2c

DDNI · 21 August 2006, 23:38

@unknown, wind yer neck in wee lad!!

In the Amiga world, there are no Generic Simms. I tried 5 different 32mb Simms in my Apollo1240. All caused issues. One call to AmigaKit and they sent me a Simm tested on their own Apollo 1240 and guaranteed compatible.

They deliver so fast, that if they sold Fish n Chips I would order them there too.....

Smiley · 22 August 2006, 00:15

I buy stuff from AmigaKit but just because they sell Amiga stuff doesnt mean im going spend 9 quid for 32mb simm when for 2 quid more i could have had four of them!

For A600 clockport adapters etc, sure I dont see why you shouldnt use AmigaKit

DDNI · 22 August 2006, 00:18

You have a point Smiley. However I gladly spent £9 for peace of mind and no hassle... I wasted about £16 on the other incompatible simms. I wasnt going to take the chance again.

Also, as I said we should support our Amiga suppliers, they are a rare commodity.

keropi · 22 August 2006, 00:20

...not to mention amigakit rox...

alewis · 22 August 2006, 01:00

Its a choice whether to use an *Amiga* supplier for generic items, or not.

What happens when you want an Amiga specific item - and Amigakit have gone out of business....

Look at Power Computing, etc.. they don't do Amiga specific items. Even Eyetech have essentially pulled out of the Amiga market. They rely on the generic products as "bread and butter" so they can continue in business, and continue to offer Amiga-specific products.

Sure, a SIMM is a SIMM is a SIMM. But buy a SIMM from ebay or <insert dealer>, find it doesn't work on your kit and [if you can] send it back. If it works on a generic PC product, guess what.. it works. And you could end up with a restocking fee to boot.

Unknown_K · 22 August 2006, 06:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI

@unknown, wind yer neck in wee lad!!

In the Amiga world, there are no Generic Simms. I tried 5 different 32mb Simms in my Apollo1240. All caused issues. One call to AmigaKit and they sent me a Simm tested on their own Apollo 1240 and guaranteed compatible.

They deliver so fast, that if they sold Fish n Chips I would order them there too.....

My 68030/50 card in my 1200 works with any 72 PIN SIMM I put in there, maybe Apollo cards are picky about FPM/EDO or timing?

If Amigakit makes life easier by you not having to know what type of RAM you need then fine, its a service you will pay extra for. I just don't see why people have to buy commodity parts at higher prices from an Amiga dealer to keep them in business. If there is no market for your main business then maybe you should move onto something else and sell Amiga kit on the side.

Zetr0 · 23 August 2006, 02:42

totaly gonna agree with Uknonwn_K, to buy just because they sell amiga kit (forgive the pun) would only inflate a false economy, and in truth could do the supplier more damage and harm. (when stocking 100
's of items only to find the customer base has gone else where)

I got upset with amiga kit a while back for selling 3.5" to 2.5" harddisk card converters they were offering them at nearly 12£ (inc p+p) each... I bought 10 of them for the same price (identical) from a ebayshop. (inc p+p)

after my rant and rave the price came down considerably.
I have no quams about exploiting a niche market, because thats what commercialism is, supply where demand. and in truth we as amiga consumers have been some what exploited over the years (thank you not CBM!).. its okay... imma professional.... exploite me now!....

Unknown_K · 23 August 2006, 06:15

I think being exploited is getting charged 150% of what another dealer is charging for the same item. If the vender is the only place in the world for that product and they charge everybody the same rate then you cannot be exploited, but you can make an error in judgement deciding to purchase that part in the first place.

I must be the only one who only buys Amiga gear in the pre owned marketplace for below the going rate. prices for most Amiga items on ebay are just silly for this day and age.

If you are going to support anybody support fellow collectors by buying items from them so they do not end up in the trash. Also support the people who code the utilities that make the Amiga experience a little more enjoyable by registering shareware.

blade002 · 23 August 2006, 08:57

To be honest, in 2006 we should be appreciating the fact that we can still buy Amiga gear from a place like Amigakit despite the overpricing. Im not exactly rolling in money myself, but puts things into perspective for a machine that hasnt been in production for 14 years!!..

At least your not paying through the arse for shipping, im in Australia so how do you think i feel about it. Your lucky and dont even know it.

Boo Boo · 23 August 2006, 18:50

Ok thanks I like Amiga Kit but Im happy to get my SIMM second hand rather then brand new

But will it work if it says Double sided or EDO and other crop

Secret Vampire · 23 August 2006, 19:49

I don't think anyone really knows, there aren't that many DKB accelerators around compared to Blizzards and Apollos. Double sided should work, EDO might, and I doubt the speed matters unless you manage to find really old, like 80ns or slower.
Most likely it was designed with 70ns fast page in mind.

Boo Boo · 02 September 2006, 10:43

Hi sorry a bit late but once I have upgraded my cobra to over 8mb will this Cause problems with with my Pcmcia to compact Flash

Update Cobra Reader - I added 32mb that I got From AMIGAkIT in the end and the Pcmcia work fine.

Secret Vampire · 02 September 2006, 11:44

If it accepts more than 8MB it should be mapping the memory entirely into 32bit address space, so PCMCIA should not be an issue.

Zetr0 · 02 September 2006, 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Secret Vampire

If it accepts more than 8MB it should be mapping the memory entirely into 32bit address space, so PCMCIA should not be an issue.

all though its generaly the case my friend, it doesn`t mean its PCMCIA friendly, Blizzards versions 1 to 3 are known to have PCMCIA issues however that being said I believe SV is right as it would be the first of a cobra with I would of heard with this issue...

many moons ago I had a choice of the technically superior blizzard cards or the apollo or even the cobra...

since the cobra could handle more memory i was going to plumb for that, but at the time all they had was an 030 onboard and it was beneath my requirements so I went for a PCMCIA friendly apollo 060 instead. I believe it even stated it on the specs..

21 August 2006, 22:17	#1
Boo Boo HONEY Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: south Posts: 2,597	72pin SIMM Hi I just want to add more memory to my Cobra accelerator http://www.amiga-hardware.com/ and 72 pin memory what will work and more what wont Stuff like 70ns and double-sided?

21 August 2006, 22:36	#2
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	since you obviously don't have a simm, why not order one from amigakit.com ? they have a range of simms, and in good prices too! I just got 2x32MB for my csppc, and they were brand new too! any 72pin simm will do, I would get a 64MB if I were in your place... __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

21 August 2006, 22:57	#4
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 39 Posts: 4,551	No don't use EBay for things like Simms!!! Support AmigaKit!!!! They are the ONLY UK based Amiga supplier left! Their prices for Simms are good. They will also switch the Simm if you find it to be incompatible. __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_

21 August 2006, 23:13	#6
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	I came across some simms that did not work on an amiga, but fine on a 486... just my 2c __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

21 August 2006, 23:38	#7
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 39 Posts: 4,551	@unknown, wind yer neck in wee lad!! In the Amiga world, there are no Generic Simms. I tried 5 different 32mb Simms in my Apollo1240. All caused issues. One call to AmigaKit and they sent me a Simm tested on their own Apollo 1240 and guaranteed compatible. They deliver so fast, that if they sold Fish n Chips I would order them there too..... __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_

21 August 2006, 22:52	#3
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,346	I bought four 32mb SIMMs for £11 posted off Ebay. Maybe good to check there first

21 August 2006, 23:03	#5
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 44 Posts: 1,367	Since when are generic SIMMs Amiga related? Do you buy your fish n chips from AmigaKit also?

22 August 2006, 00:15	#8
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,346	I buy stuff from AmigaKit but just because they sell Amiga stuff doesnt mean im going spend 9 quid for 32mb simm when for 2 quid more i could have had four of them! For A600 clockport adapters etc, sure I dont see why you shouldnt use AmigaKit

22 August 2006, 00:18	#9
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 39 Posts: 4,551	You have a point Smiley. However I gladly spent £9 for peace of mind and no hassle... I wasted about £16 on the other incompatible simms. I wasnt going to take the chance again. Also, as I said we should support our Amiga suppliers, they are a rare commodity. __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_

22 August 2006, 00:20	#10
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	...not to mention amigakit rox... __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

22 August 2006, 01:00	#11
alewis Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Venice, FL Age: 46 Posts: 520	Its a choice whether to use an Amiga supplier for generic items, or not. What happens when you want an Amiga specific item - and Amigakit have gone out of business.... Look at Power Computing, etc.. they don't do Amiga specific items. Even Eyetech have essentially pulled out of the Amiga market. They rely on the generic products as "bread and butter" so they can continue in business, and continue to offer Amiga-specific products. Sure, a SIMM is a SIMM is a SIMM. But buy a SIMM from ebay or <insert dealer>, find it doesn't work on your kit and [if you can] send it back. If it works on a generic PC product, guess what.. it works. And you could end up with a restocking fee to boot.

23 August 2006, 02:42	#13
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 38 Posts: 9,185	totaly gonna agree with Uknonwn_K, to buy just because they sell amiga kit (forgive the pun) would only inflate a false economy, and in truth could do the supplier more damage and harm. (when stocking 100 's of items only to find the customer base has gone else where) I got upset with amiga kit a while back for selling 3.5" to 2.5" harddisk card converters they were offering them at nearly 12£ (inc p+p) each... I bought 10 of them for the same price (identical) from a ebayshop. (inc p+p) after my rant and rave the price came down considerably. I have no quams about exploiting a niche market, because thats what commercialism is, supply where demand. and in truth we as amiga consumers have been some what exploited over the years (thank you not CBM!).. its okay... imma professional.... exploite me now!....

23 August 2006, 06:15	#14
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 44 Posts: 1,367	I think being exploited is getting charged 150% of what another dealer is charging for the same item. If the vender is the only place in the world for that product and they charge everybody the same rate then you cannot be exploited, but you can make an error in judgement deciding to purchase that part in the first place. I must be the only one who only buys Amiga gear in the pre owned marketplace for below the going rate. prices for most Amiga items on ebay are just silly for this day and age. If you are going to support anybody support fellow collectors by buying items from them so they do not end up in the trash. Also support the people who code the utilities that make the Amiga experience a little more enjoyable by registering shareware.

23 August 2006, 08:57	#15
blade002 Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Age: 39 Posts: 2,325	To be honest, in 2006 we should be appreciating the fact that we can still buy Amiga gear from a place like Amigakit despite the overpricing. Im not exactly rolling in money myself, but puts things into perspective for a machine that hasnt been in production for 14 years!!.. At least your not paying through the arse for shipping, im in Australia so how do you think i feel about it. Your lucky and dont even know it.

23 August 2006, 18:50	#16
Boo Boo HONEY Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: south Posts: 2,597	Ok thanks I like Amiga Kit but Im happy to get my SIMM second hand rather then brand new But will it work if it says Double sided or EDO and other crop

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23 August 2006, 19:49	#17
Secret Vampire Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Birmingham UK Age: 32 Posts: 213	I don't think anyone really knows, there aren't that many DKB accelerators around compared to Blizzards and Apollos. Double sided should work, EDO might, and I doubt the speed matters unless you manage to find really old, like 80ns or slower. Most likely it was designed with 70ns fast page in mind.

02 September 2006, 10:43	#18
Boo Boo HONEY Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: south Posts: 2,597	Pcmcia to compact Flash Hi sorry a bit late but once I have upgraded my cobra to over 8mb will this Cause problems with with my Pcmcia to compact Flash Update Cobra Reader - I added 32mb that I got From AMIGAkIT in the end and the Pcmcia work fine. Last edited by Boo Boo; 07 June 2007 at 23:01.

02 September 2006, 11:44	#19
Secret Vampire Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Birmingham UK Age: 32 Posts: 213	If it accepts more than 8MB it should be mapping the memory entirely into 32bit address space, so PCMCIA should not be an issue.

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