Problem with Buck

07 February 2002, 15:48

Can someone tell me how to start Buck Rogers.Because I downloaded it from several sites in different form ADF & ADZ and none of these works,because I always get insert disk 2 message.

07 February 2002, 17:32

Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember uploading a working version a while ago upon your request.

When you are asked for disk 2, replace the disk you boot with the second .adf by using the floppy menu that appears when you press f12 during emulation.

08 February 2002, 07:15

Yes I did that too but it won't work it asks me for disk 2.

Twistin'Ghost · 08 February 2002, 07:45

Hmmm...I can't actually test this until I get home, but have you tried ejecting disk 1, returning to the game/emulation, waiting a second or two, and then inserting disk 2? This happens on some games (and I believe is being fixed or is already fixed for a future WinUAE update), so give this a try.

RetroMan · 08 February 2002, 20:15

Cannot say if Buck is running in WinUAE, but it is for sure running in Fellow (Dos) and WinFellow (i´ve played it quite a lot

)

11 February 2002, 00:11

WinFellow,WinUAE no it won't work I tried everything .

11 February 2002, 10:15

What twistin said reminded me a problem I once had with Ishar series. That's a stupid bug but it causes serious problems. When it asks for the disk eject the first one, return to emulation and wait about ten seconds. ok this may be long but it's safe this way. Then insert your second disk in the DF0: and if the game requires you to press enter, space mouse button joystick, whatever. Do it. Then check the drive leds if the game is loading the disk or not. The screen may not disappear instantly. You need to run WinUAE at 800 by 600 resolution or in windowed mode to see the drive indicators. I will check this game now myself and post possible reasons shortly.

11 February 2002, 10:42

Ok I tested the game. It runs perfectly and you should not have any problems at all. The disk requesters are simple workbench requesters. There is a retry button but you don't need to press it because the game recognizes the disk instantly and you do not need to replace the disk in df0 or anything. You can put all the disks in df0 df1 df2 and df3 at once !!! I used winuae and I am sure winfellow would act the same because it is the same engine used in goldbox games and I could run these games with my real amigas, winuae, winfellow, (I might have used dosfellow as well) and they will probably work on amithlon as well. If your problems continue try to explain them better. I am willing to help but not if you don't help yourself

Btw, what amiga model did you have before you jumped into emulators?

12 February 2002, 07:29

And what do you think I did I always put all disks in all drives for the first time I'm starting the game.When I saw it won't work I tried every combination I could.Hell I'll try again and wait.
Oh,I had C64 before PC,I thought of Amiga but PC emerged.

Chuckles · 12 February 2002, 07:40

At the risk of asking what may sound like a stupid question, is the game in question "Buck Rogers - Countdown to Doomsday"? The initial post simply says "Buck Rogers" and besides that one, there is "Buck Rogers - The Marsian Encounter", and I've heard it rumored that there was another Buck Rogers title as well, which was NOT in the same series as the first two I just mentioned.

On the assumption that the one you're trying to run actually IS one of the first two, my next guess would be that your copy of the second disk is a bad copy. Just a thought ...

CodyJarrett · 12 February 2002, 09:58

Yes, it's Buck Rogers: Countdown To Doomsday (as seen below). However, Buck Rogers 2: The Marsian Encounter wasn't released on the Amiga. The copy that you've seen is a fake version of the first one, with a different titlescreen.

There is also an Amiga game with no titlescreen or information, which looks like it's Buck Rogers: Planet Of Zoom:

http://www.mame.dk/gameinfo/buckrog/

But, it's hard to tell whether it's a crack with all useful info removed, a shareware game or a beta of an unreleased game.

12 February 2002, 11:00

Here you go! I made a hard drive install of buck and uploaded it to the zone. Use your regular configuration but instead of inserting an adf, extract this zip to a directory, show this directory as a hard drive under the hard drives tab and boot normally. You will not be asked for a disk. Not even a save disk. I suspect your configuration was the cause or maybe the version of WinUAE but again we have no details

. Just make sure you are running a kick 1.3 ecs config with the latest WinUAE. If it does not work for some unknown reason, detail your configuration.

12 February 2002, 13:20

I'll try,thanks.Oh I have WinUAE 8.8 r8 kickstart 3.1 & Workbench 3.1.

Twistin'Ghost · 12 February 2002, 15:19

Well, there's your problem right there. That's an old game and you should be using kickstart1.3!

Tim Janssen · 12 February 2002, 16:14

Errr excuse me, but I get a little confused about which Buck Rogers-games circulate on Amiga. I only know the SciFi RPG Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday (1990) and its sequel which is not called Martian Encounter but was released in the same RPG series. I have a review of Buck Rogers 2 in Amiga Joker, Spring 1992.
Has Buck Rogers 2 ever been released or is it another fake Amiga Joker review?

12 February 2002, 19:50

There is only Buck Rogers XXVc - Countdown to Doomsday on Amiga

Twistin'Ghost · 13 February 2002, 00:42

For the record:

Buck Rogers - Countdown To Doomsday (SSI)

is the only 'official' Buck Rogers game yet confirmed as released on the Amiga.

There was a sequel:

Buck Rogers - The Matrix Cubed (SSI)

which was not released to the Amiga. Instead, some moron hacker created a title screen and replaced the one in Countdown To Doomsday (and a few other tiny text hacks) and spread it to the warez boards as:

Buck Rogers - The Marsian Encounter

The spelling on [marsian], for you trivia fans, is not a mispelled version of martian, but rather Marsian, meaning one from Mars. or of Mars. Regardless, this is a fake waste of time.

And there is also the aforementioned Buck Rogers - Planet Of Zoom thing that is floating around that nobody can confirm if it was commercially published or not.

Tim Janssen · 13 February 2002, 13:32

Thanks for the complete Buck Rogers-list. This proves the Buck Rogers 2 review in Amiga Joker is a fake. I’ll post that scanned review next week (when I think of it).
With this game, No Buddies Land and Son Shu Si Amiga Joker are becoming the star of fake reviews.

Twistin'Ghost · 13 February 2002, 13:45

Thanks, Tim. I really look forward to seeing that. Some magazines were indeed guilty of rushing their reviews too far ahead of their proper lead time and reviewing beta and demo copies (Amiga Power made mention of some of these), but if Amiga Joker reviewed Buck Roger 2...well, I really look forward to seeing exactly what game it is that they reviewed. If it's the fake, then their review copies must have come from pirate boards. Talk about not being able to trust a magazine!

Tim Janssen · 18 February 2002, 08:55

As promised I have scanned the Buck Rogers 2 review that appeared in issue 5 of 1992 in Amiga Joker. My apologies for the bad quality of the scan. I had to sharpen and schrink the image to an appropriate file-size.
I cannot make out of the text whether Buck Rogers 2 - The marsian encounter is reviewed. I hope the screenshots in the review will ring a bell to someone.

I never noticed it, but the review is even mentioned on the cover of this very magazine. Check out Kultpower to view the cover.

Edit: I just discovered the image is still too big to attach to this thread, so I have put it in The Zone.

07 February 2002, 15:48	#1
cgmiki Posts: n/a	Problem with Buck Can someone tell me how to start Buck Rogers.Because I downloaded it from several sites in different form ADF & ADZ and none of these works,because I always get insert disk 2 message.

08 February 2002, 20:15	#5
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 40 Posts: 3,704	Cannot say if Buck is running in WinUAE, but it is for sure running in Fellow (Dos) and WinFellow (i´ve played it quite a lot ) __________________ --~~= RetroMan =~~-- -= AmigA =- -= ForeveR =-

12 February 2002, 09:58	#11
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 35 Posts: 5,449	Yes, it's Buck Rogers: Countdown To Doomsday (as seen below). However, Buck Rogers 2: The Marsian Encounter wasn't released on the Amiga. The copy that you've seen is a fake version of the first one, with a different titlescreen. There is also an Amiga game with no titlescreen or information, which looks like it's Buck Rogers: Planet Of Zoom: http://www.mame.dk/gameinfo/buckrog/ But, it's hard to tell whether it's a crack with all useful info removed, a shareware game or a beta of an unreleased game. Attached Thumbnails

12 February 2002, 16:14	#15
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The Hague / The Netherlands Age: 36 Posts: 1,271	Bucks Errr excuse me, but I get a little confused about which Buck Rogers-games circulate on Amiga. I only know the SciFi RPG Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday (1990) and its sequel which is not called Martian Encounter but was released in the same RPG series. I have a review of Buck Rogers 2 in Amiga Joker, Spring 1992. Has Buck Rogers 2 ever been released or is it another fake Amiga Joker review?

13 February 2002, 13:32	#18
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The Hague / The Netherlands Age: 36 Posts: 1,271	Buck 2 is a fake Thanks for the complete Buck Rogers-list. This proves the Buck Rogers 2 review in Amiga Joker is a fake. I’ll post that scanned review next week (when I think of it). With this game, No Buddies Land and Son Shu Si Amiga Joker are becoming the star of fake reviews.

07 February 2002, 17:32	#2
oldpx Posts: n/a	Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember uploading a working version a while ago upon your request. When you are asked for disk 2, replace the disk you boot with the second .adf by using the floppy menu that appears when you press f12 during emulation.

08 February 2002, 07:15	#3
cgmiki Posts: n/a	Yes I did that too but it won't work it asks me for disk 2.

08 February 2002, 07:45	#4
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 22 Posts: 4,662	Hmmm...I can't actually test this until I get home, but have you tried ejecting disk 1, returning to the game/emulation, waiting a second or two, and then inserting disk 2? This happens on some games (and I believe is being fixed or is already fixed for a future WinUAE update), so give this a try.

11 February 2002, 00:11	#6
cgmiki Posts: n/a	WinFellow,WinUAE no it won't work I tried everything .

11 February 2002, 10:15	#7
oldpx Posts: n/a	What twistin said reminded me a problem I once had with Ishar series. That's a stupid bug but it causes serious problems. When it asks for the disk eject the first one, return to emulation and wait about ten seconds. ok this may be long but it's safe this way. Then insert your second disk in the DF0: and if the game requires you to press enter, space mouse button joystick, whatever. Do it. Then check the drive leds if the game is loading the disk or not. The screen may not disappear instantly. You need to run WinUAE at 800 by 600 resolution or in windowed mode to see the drive indicators. I will check this game now myself and post possible reasons shortly.

11 February 2002, 10:42	#8
oldpx Posts: n/a	Ok I tested the game. It runs perfectly and you should not have any problems at all. The disk requesters are simple workbench requesters. There is a retry button but you don't need to press it because the game recognizes the disk instantly and you do not need to replace the disk in df0 or anything. You can put all the disks in df0 df1 df2 and df3 at once !!! I used winuae and I am sure winfellow would act the same because it is the same engine used in goldbox games and I could run these games with my real amigas, winuae, winfellow, (I might have used dosfellow as well) and they will probably work on amithlon as well. If your problems continue try to explain them better. I am willing to help but not if you don't help yourself Btw, what amiga model did you have before you jumped into emulators?

12 February 2002, 07:29	#9
cgmiki Posts: n/a	And what do you think I did I always put all disks in all drives for the first time I'm starting the game.When I saw it won't work I tried every combination I could.Hell I'll try again and wait. Oh,I had C64 before PC,I thought of Amiga but PC emerged.

12 February 2002, 07:40	#10
Chuckles The Ancient One Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kansas City/USA Age: 58 Posts: 684	At the risk of asking what may sound like a stupid question, is the game in question "Buck Rogers - Countdown to Doomsday"? The initial post simply says "Buck Rogers" and besides that one, there is "Buck Rogers - The Marsian Encounter", and I've heard it rumored that there was another Buck Rogers title as well, which was NOT in the same series as the first two I just mentioned. On the assumption that the one you're trying to run actually IS one of the first two, my next guess would be that your copy of the second disk is a bad copy. Just a thought ...

12 February 2002, 11:00	#12
oldpx Posts: n/a	Here you go! I made a hard drive install of buck and uploaded it to the zone. Use your regular configuration but instead of inserting an adf, extract this zip to a directory, show this directory as a hard drive under the hard drives tab and boot normally. You will not be asked for a disk. Not even a save disk. I suspect your configuration was the cause or maybe the version of WinUAE but again we have no details . Just make sure you are running a kick 1.3 ecs config with the latest WinUAE. If it does not work for some unknown reason, detail your configuration.

12 February 2002, 13:20	#13
cgmiki Posts: n/a	I'll try,thanks.Oh I have WinUAE 8.8 r8 kickstart 3.1 & Workbench 3.1.

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12 February 2002, 15:19	#14
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 22 Posts: 4,662	Well, there's your problem right there. That's an old game and you should be using kickstart1.3!

12 February 2002, 19:50	#16
oldpx Posts: n/a	There is only Buck Rogers XXVc - Countdown to Doomsday on Amiga

13 February 2002, 00:42	#17
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 22 Posts: 4,662	For the record: Buck Rogers - Countdown To Doomsday (SSI) is the only 'official' Buck Rogers game yet confirmed as released on the Amiga. There was a sequel: Buck Rogers - The Matrix Cubed (SSI) which was not released to the Amiga. Instead, some moron hacker created a title screen and replaced the one in Countdown To Doomsday (and a few other tiny text hacks) and spread it to the warez boards as: Buck Rogers - The Marsian Encounter The spelling on [marsian], for you trivia fans, is not a mispelled version of martian, but rather Marsian, meaning one from Mars. or of Mars. Regardless, this is a fake waste of time. And there is also the aforementioned Buck Rogers - Planet Of Zoom thing that is floating around that nobody can confirm if it was commercially published or not.

13 February 2002, 13:45	#19
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 22 Posts: 4,662	Thanks, Tim. I really look forward to seeing that. Some magazines were indeed guilty of rushing their reviews too far ahead of their proper lead time and reviewing beta and demo copies (Amiga Power made mention of some of these), but if Amiga Joker reviewed Buck Roger 2...well, I really look forward to seeing exactly what game it is that they reviewed. If it's the fake, then their review copies must have come from pirate boards. Talk about not being able to trust a magazine!

18 February 2002, 08:55	#20
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The Hague / The Netherlands Age: 36 Posts: 1,271	Buck Rogers 2 review As promised I have scanned the Buck Rogers 2 review that appeared in issue 5 of 1992 in Amiga Joker. My apologies for the bad quality of the scan. I had to sharpen and schrink the image to an appropriate file-size. I cannot make out of the text whether Buck Rogers 2 - The marsian encounter is reviewed. I hope the screenshots in the review will ring a bell to someone. I never noticed it, but the review is even mentioned on the cover of this very magazine. Check out Kultpower to view the cover. Edit: I just discovered the image is still too big to attach to this thread, so I have put it in The Zone.

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