looking for SuperHero/Psygnosis demo - Page 2

12 May 2005, 02:33

HI Ray! Its been a long time, how is Doug?

-Anthony

Ray Norrish · 12 May 2005, 19:31

Sure has. Unfortunately, I haven't seen or heard from Doug for a few years. Last time I spoke to him he'd been working in Kuala Lumpor!

Galahad/FLT · 18 May 2005, 11:29

Hey Ray, long time no see/chat!

The last time we met was at that 'fantastic' Digital Copy Party in Rotherham I think it was?!?! 1993... jesus, time flies! Welcome mate, good to know you are alive still!

Ray Norrish · 19 May 2005, 19:40

Indeed. I read you're a copper now - still there?

Galahad/FLT · 24 May 2005, 12:49

No, I quit.... me a copper! Ha ha, I rejoin next year

andreas · 26 May 2005, 20:00

WHOA!
Full FX is here!

The guy with the frequently nicked, never bettered BLOOD MONEY SOUNDTRACK!

Welcome on EAB!

Are you still into music making these days, like Chris Huelsbeck and Rudolf Stember with their studios? Or doing something completely else?

Ray Norrish · 06 June 2005, 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreas

WHOA!

Welcome on EAB!

Are you still into music making these days, like Chris Huelsbeck and Rudolf Stember with their studios? Or doing something completely else?

Hi Andreas!

Unfortunately no, I don't do any music stuff these days. I work in other fields - internet, databases etc. Music never paid the mortgage anyway

alexh · 07 June 2005, 10:01

I thought you were doing something for the Immortal 3 CD?

I loved the work you did, especially TKGS.

Ray Norrish · 08 June 2005, 23:57

cheers.
I was doing something, but it fell through. I`m pretty pissed off about it I can tell you. Nothing to do with Jan, but the guy who was providing equipment etc basically held me to ransom & I haven`t got time for that kind of crap - reminds me too much of when I was doing this stuff in the 1st place!

alexh · 09 June 2005, 09:49

Sorry to here that, bummer

Does your mum & dad still live at the address you used to leave in your modules?

15 marcombe road
chelston
torquay
devon
tq2 6ll

I assume that you were at your parents back then.

Ray Norrish · 16 June 2005, 16:30

No,
That was a flat I was living in at the time. Incidentally, you don't have any of my demo disks from that time (one had that address in it) as there was a track on there I cannot find anywhere.

turrican3 · 23 September 2007, 20:39

it's really frustrating to see all these games which wasn't realeased but they were so near of the shelves.
It's too bad

Joe Maroni · 28 October 2008, 06:27

i´ve been in contact with Anthony Ball since 2-3 weeks...

there is a full version of the game for the amiga...

but he need to recompile it, because the sources are on his old A4000.
until now i have a leveleditor, the scanned manual and the protection codes sheet...

i hope to have the full version till christmas....

Reynolds · 28 October 2008, 06:48

WTF!

Rulez!

Another great stuff. Can be the level editor released as well?

TCD · 28 October 2008, 06:53

Yay, really great news Joe

Another new Amiga game for X-Mas

turrican3 · 28 October 2008, 07:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Maroni

there is a full version of the game for the amiga...

Incredible news joe

Graham Humphrey · 28 October 2008, 08:00

Wow, that was out of the blue... great work

Old Fool · 28 October 2008, 08:15

VERY INTERESTING! Another platformer / beat'em up (in a bit style of Turrican!) is always welcome!

Reynolds · 28 October 2008, 09:26

Feel myself in a time machine. Like in 1992. Lotsa' new ql stuff under the xmastree...

TCD · 28 October 2008, 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reynolds

Feel myself in a time machine. Like in 1992. Lotsa' new ql stuff under the xmastree...

Let's hope we also hear something new from Babylonian Twins...

killergorilla · 28 October 2008, 12:10

It'd be good to see how different the full version is to the demo version.

And a level editor as well...

Should be very interesting indeed. Nice work Joe.

Joe Maroni · 28 October 2008, 20:39

i don´t know if i can spread the editor, i have to ask tony first, but i can give you a screenshot...

it crashes on my WinXP system but runs perfect with Vista...

Anthony told me that it should work with both systems...

TCD · 28 October 2008, 20:48

*drools at bit* I forgot to say thank you very much for your effort Joe

I just saw this htread when you revived it with this great news and even if the demo isn't that promising the game seems to have a lot more to it

nujack · 30 October 2008, 11:44

Unbelievable!!! Can't imagine that a full version of this game still exist. Hopefully it will be released very soon. New games for our classics are welcome.

@Joe Maroni: Thank you for your effords. Maybe a full version of Raiden or PuttySquad will also appaear some times....

Joe Maroni · 03 November 2008, 22:07

if anyone misunderstood me, i don´t have a version now, but i can tell you why the game wasn´t released...

some notes about the contact with anthony:

Quote:

I don't have copies of the master disks, but I have the full source
code,music and graphics - so I could make a set of disks up if
needed. Would have to get the 4000 started up - its not been switched on
in a few years. lol.

Quote:

No it wasn't released. The computers that had the final version on
were seized by UK police, they suspected that there was satellite
decryption code on the computers. They kept the computers for about 7
years (until 1999), they had to return them when they lost the case.
By then the Amiga market was finished and the game not marketable.

Quote:

Hi Nico,
They took the Amiga, a 486 pc (prob. state of the art then lol) and
loads of other stuff.
Everytime I bought new PC's they came back and took them - so I had to
abandon the project until it was resolved. Didn't know it would take
so long.
When I got it back it was hard to remember which bit was the latest
code - they had trashed things a bit. I should have the final still
on the 4000. I have some code that was archived to the PC, but I
don't know if its the final.
I have all the docs for the game, I scanned them in PDF format a while
ago - should be able to find them too.
The docs are needed for the protection system within the game.

Quote:

Sony bought Psygnosis around the time the machines were taken. I
don't think they cared about Amiga versions after that. Pity really
because the Amiga was a source of some very original games, etc.

Quote:

The machine didn't work when I got it back - they had disconnected
cables, removed jumpers and broke the keyboard. Sore losers! lol

lets hope that he still get it running....

Reynolds · 04 November 2008, 14:41

The question is then what can we offer for supporting him in the finish...?

Ray Norrish · 28 May 2009, 04:19

Well, I just re-read this thread and it would be good to clear up the music angle once and for all?

Adropac2 · 28 May 2009, 05:11

An unfortunate tale regarding the court case and the state of some of that hardware

All very encouraging stuff however concerning where this may be heading - i rather enjoyed the demo all those years ago and was saddened when it never released - guessed it had been canned

Fingers crossed

Reynolds · 18 June 2009, 23:35

Still: what can we offer to release? hw? Money?

Vollldo · 10 March 2011, 11:26

Just read this thread. What's up for this ?? Can we hope a realease of Superhero ??

Joe Maroni · 29 March 2011, 22:35

i didn´t asked Anthony about releasing it the last months...

But wrote an email now..

this is the place where the game might be already finished...

does any of our UK members live near this adress ??

utri007 · 02 April 2011, 15:32

Please remove that addres, I belive that is bad idea to publish.

I would be angry if were him and I would be even more angry if somebody just pop in

Vollldo · 06 April 2011, 18:39

Joe say us if he answers u by mail. The demo is impressive, it would be a major new amiga game!!

Joe Maroni · 08 April 2011, 20:52

no reply to my mail until now...

here is his answer:

Quote:

Hi Joe,

No news about Superhero, I checked the original contracts and Psygnosis have rights to publish the Amiga version and first refusal on Snes and Megadrive versions. I've tried contacting people about it at Sony (liverpool) but had no replies - now that the studio is shut down I doubt if anyone can give me a reply.

anyone know what to do next ???

Joe Maroni · 22 May 2011, 21:37

some news:

you can see the game in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag8ND...&feature=share

s2325 · 22 May 2011, 21:45

Thank you, very SNES-like :/

albino · 22 May 2011, 23:59

if i get it right, the whole game has been find, so what the problem about releasing it?

Codetapper · 23 May 2011, 01:42

The game isn't complete. It's a 4 month old version with various objects on the levels missing.

Adropac2 · 23 May 2011, 03:01

This would have been one of the few last games i bought and played to completion. It had a good feel to it. The video here shows a great looking game

A shame

ComputingData · 23 May 2011, 19:20

I'm really sorry that it took so long to get videos for everyone...

The video is from a set of disks made up from final graphics and object code that is 4 months behind the graphics.

The first set of disks I made didn't boot at all, this is because the disks booted into my dev system - I used to use an Amiga to send object code to another Amiga - so I could remote debug, etc...

I opened up the Amiga, as it turns out the Amiga was returned with different hard drives in it than before. There are now two hard drives of a smaller capacity than the 300MB one that it had before!

As a result of all this, some files are missing (all source), but the graphics were up to date.

I found object code (assembled source code) and source code dated about 4 months previous. I used to send copies to myself of everything, just in case we had any copyright problems.

I copied the old object code to the Amiga and made some disks. They booted! So in the video there is new graphics/maps mixed with old code, old baddie positions, old sprite offsets, unknown which version of music, etc...

It appears to work fine though (most of the time). I know a bug that was fixed is now back in - if you ran out of time, whilst in the air (on a sprite platform) then the game would crash and scroll to the left until it reached the end (ESC would break out of it).

Here is a link to the bigger video...

pt1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YHdXYl_07Q

pt2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNwlGTabDS4

pt3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM9AmghRJh8

There is one ray of hope for a final version, today I remembered something, when my computers were taken a backup was made by Commodore to CDROM. My solicitor gave me back the disc in 1999 - problem is that I don't remember where I put it! I didn't need it because I had the Amiga itself!!! Hopefully I'll stumble upon it one day.

-Anthony

12 May 2005, 19:31	#42
Ray Norrish Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheshire, UK Age: 45 Posts: 300	Sure has. Unfortunately, I haven't seen or heard from Doug for a few years. Last time I spoke to him he'd been working in Kuala Lumpor! __________________ Robotron remake - completed I, Robot remake - WIP Amiga demos in DHTML

18 May 2005, 11:29	#43
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 39 Posts: 5,029	Hey Ray, long time no see/chat! The last time we met was at that 'fantastic' Digital Copy Party in Rotherham I think it was?!?! 1993... jesus, time flies! Welcome mate, good to know you are alive still! __________________ Former member of: LSD, Scoopex, Razor 1911, Dual Crew Shining, Rednex, Fairlight. www.southwestscrap.co.uk

19 May 2005, 19:40	#44
Ray Norrish Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheshire, UK Age: 45 Posts: 300	Indeed. I read you're a copper now - still there? __________________ Robotron remake - completed I, Robot remake - WIP Amiga demos in DHTML

24 May 2005, 12:49	#45
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 39 Posts: 5,029	No, I quit.... me a copper! Ha ha, I rejoin next year __________________ Former member of: LSD, Scoopex, Razor 1911, Dual Crew Shining, Rednex, Fairlight. www.southwestscrap.co.uk

07 June 2005, 10:01	#48
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,516	I thought you were doing something for the Immortal 3 CD? I loved the work you did, especially TKGS. __________________ Thalion Webshrine

12 May 2005, 02:33	#41
DoubleDutch Posts: n/a	HI Ray! Its been a long time, how is Doug? -Anthony

26 May 2005, 20:00	#46
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 39 Posts: 5,858	WHOA! Full FX is here! The guy with the frequently nicked, never bettered BLOOD MONEY SOUNDTRACK! Welcome on EAB! Are you still into music making these days, like Chris Huelsbeck and Rudolf Stember with their studios? Or doing something completely else?

08 June 2005, 23:57	#49
Ray Norrish Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheshire, UK Age: 45 Posts: 300	cheers. I was doing something, but it fell through. I`m pretty pissed off about it I can tell you. Nothing to do with Jan, but the guy who was providing equipment etc basically held me to ransom & I haven`t got time for that kind of crap - reminds me too much of when I was doing this stuff in the 1st place! __________________ Robotron remake - completed I, Robot remake - WIP Amiga demos in DHTML

09 June 2005, 09:49	#50
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,516	Sorry to here that, bummer Does your mum & dad still live at the address you used to leave in your modules? 15 marcombe road chelston torquay devon tq2 6ll I assume that you were at your parents back then. __________________ Thalion Webshrine

16 June 2005, 16:30	#51
Ray Norrish Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheshire, UK Age: 45 Posts: 300	No, That was a flat I was living in at the time. Incidentally, you don't have any of my demo disks from that time (one had that address in it) as there was a track on there I cannot find anywhere. __________________ Robotron remake - completed I, Robot remake - WIP Amiga demos in DHTML

23 September 2007, 20:39	#52
turrican3 the amiga will never die! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 37 Posts: 1,965	it's really frustrating to see all these games which wasn't realeased but they were so near of the shelves. It's too bad __________________ AMIGA : the biggest near death experience !

28 October 2008, 06:48	#54
Reynolds Alien Breeder Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Szigetszentmiklos / Hungary Age: 35 Posts: 445	WTF! Rulez! Another great stuff. Can be the level editor released as well?

28 October 2008, 06:53	#55
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,478	Yay, really great news Joe Another new Amiga game for X-Mas __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

28 October 2008, 08:00	#57
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 26 Posts: 9,675	Wow, that was out of the blue... great work __________________ The EAB/Lemon Amiga Super League \| Round 6 - Arcade Pool \| Round 7 voting Lemon Amiga is now on YouTube and Facebook!

28 October 2008, 08:15	#58
Old Fool Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tampere Age: 30 Posts: 600	VERY INTERESTING! Another platformer / beat'em up (in a bit style of Turrican!) is always welcome!

28 October 2008, 09:26	#59
Reynolds Alien Breeder Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Szigetszentmiklos / Hungary Age: 35 Posts: 445	Feel myself in a time machine. Like in 1992. Lotsa' new ql stuff under the xmastree...

28 October 2008, 12:10	#61
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	It'd be good to see how different the full version is to the demo version. And a level editor as well... Should be very interesting indeed. Nice work Joe. __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

28 October 2008, 20:39	#62
Joe Maroni Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Age: 33 Posts: 1,056	i don´t know if i can spread the editor, i have to ask tony first, but i can give you a screenshot... it crashes on my WinXP system but runs perfect with Vista... Anthony told me that it should work with both systems... Attached Thumbnails

28 October 2008, 20:48	#63
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,478	drools at bit I forgot to say thank you very much for your effort Joe I just saw this htread when you revived it with this great news and even if the demo isn't that promising the game seems to have a lot more to it __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

30 October 2008, 11:44	#64
nujack Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Leipzig/Germany Age: 38 Posts: 294	Unbelievable!!! Can't imagine that a full version of this game still exist. Hopefully it will be released very soon. New games for our classics are welcome. @Joe Maroni: Thank you for your effords. Maybe a full version of Raiden or PuttySquad will also appaear some times....

04 November 2008, 14:41	#66
Reynolds Alien Breeder Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Szigetszentmiklos / Hungary Age: 35 Posts: 445	The question is then what can we offer for supporting him in the finish...?

28 May 2009, 04:19	#67
Ray Norrish Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheshire, UK Age: 45 Posts: 300	Well, I just re-read this thread and it would be good to clear up the music angle once and for all? __________________ Robotron remake - completed I, Robot remake - WIP Amiga demos in DHTML

28 May 2009, 05:11	#68
Adropac2 Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Age: 40 Posts: 820	An unfortunate tale regarding the court case and the state of some of that hardware All very encouraging stuff however concerning where this may be heading - i rather enjoyed the demo all those years ago and was saddened when it never released - guessed it had been canned Fingers crossed

18 June 2009, 23:35	#69
Reynolds Alien Breeder Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Szigetszentmiklos / Hungary Age: 35 Posts: 445	Still: what can we offer to release? hw? Money?

10 March 2011, 11:26	#70
Vollldo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: France Age: 38 Posts: 826	Just read this thread. What's up for this ?? Can we hope a realease of Superhero ??

29 March 2011, 22:35	#71
Joe Maroni Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Age: 33 Posts: 1,056	i didn´t asked Anthony about releasing it the last months... But wrote an email now.. this is the place where the game might be already finished... does any of our UK members live near this adress ?? Last edited by Joe Maroni; 02 April 2011 at 19:34.

02 April 2011, 15:32	#72
utri007 mä vaan Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 305	Please remove that addres, I belive that is bad idea to publish. I would be angry if were him and I would be even more angry if somebody just pop in __________________ Ibe U

06 April 2011, 18:39	#73
Vollldo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: France Age: 38 Posts: 826	Joe say us if he answers u by mail. The demo is impressive, it would be a major new amiga game!!

22 May 2011, 21:37	#75
Joe Maroni Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Age: 33 Posts: 1,056	some news: you can see the game in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag8ND...&feature=share

22 May 2011, 21:45	#76
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 32 Posts: 11,269	Thank you, very SNES-like :/

22 May 2011, 23:59	#77
albino Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: france Age: 34 Posts: 37	if i get it right, the whole game has been find, so what the problem about releasing it?

23 May 2011, 01:42	#78
Codetapper Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Age: 38 Posts: 2,464	The game isn't complete. It's a 4 month old version with various objects on the levels missing.

23 May 2011, 03:01	#79
Adropac2 Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Age: 40 Posts: 820	This would have been one of the few last games i bought and played to completion. It had a good feel to it. The video here shows a great looking game A shame

23 May 2011, 19:20	#80
ComputingData Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 25	I'm really sorry that it took so long to get videos for everyone... The video is from a set of disks made up from final graphics and object code that is 4 months behind the graphics. The first set of disks I made didn't boot at all, this is because the disks booted into my dev system - I used to use an Amiga to send object code to another Amiga - so I could remote debug, etc... I opened up the Amiga, as it turns out the Amiga was returned with different hard drives in it than before. There are now two hard drives of a smaller capacity than the 300MB one that it had before! As a result of all this, some files are missing (all source), but the graphics were up to date. I found object code (assembled source code) and source code dated about 4 months previous. I used to send copies to myself of everything, just in case we had any copyright problems. I copied the old object code to the Amiga and made some disks. They booted! So in the video there is new graphics/maps mixed with old code, old baddie positions, old sprite offsets, unknown which version of music, etc... It appears to work fine though (most of the time). I know a bug that was fixed is now back in - if you ran out of time, whilst in the air (on a sprite platform) then the game would crash and scroll to the left until it reached the end (ESC would break out of it). Here is a link to the bigger video... pt1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YHdXYl_07Q pt2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNwlGTabDS4 pt3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM9AmghRJh8 There is one ray of hope for a final version, today I remembered something, when my computers were taken a backup was made by Commodore to CDROM. My solicitor gave me back the disc in 1999 - problem is that I don't remember where I put it! I didn't need it because I had the Amiga itself!!! Hopefully I'll stumble upon it one day. -Anthony

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