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Old 21 June 2017, 11:25   #101
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1) Patents are good for 20 years in the U.S. All 68k patents should be expired.
68k yes. But MMX is x86. And AMMX is roughly the same as MMX.


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Matt, could you please tell us your qualifications that make any of the stuff you write credible? The mere fact that you write about "a critical path" when generally in a digital chip there is exactly one critical path seems to indicate that you are, well, "self-taught". I have a PhD in microelectronics and am a professional microchip developer. What you write is nonsense but will probably impress some gullible people. Well, so be it, I cannot spend as much time as you on writing long-winded technical arguments that most people wouldn't understand anyway.
Argument from authority, huh ?


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The problem is that Matt is writing nonsense (but in an impressive manner) and that nobody can understand the nonsense (like you admit for yourself) as well as the corrections. Any "discussion on a technical level" you hope for is just a waste of time and will result in more nonsense posted. Matt just won't stop.
The fact you don't understand what he writes, does not mean it's nonsense and that other people can't get it.
Matt writes technical facts and anyone with enough knowledge will not find him difficult to understand.


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Hah. Fair point.
Nope. Just another personal attack.
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Old 21 June 2017, 11:30   #102
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@matthey

All your claims about the Apollo core are pure assumptions. You never seen the internal design, so this means you dont know how the registers work, you dont know how ALU is designed, you dont know the SIMD design and finally you dont know the FPU design. All your claims and complaints are based on how Apollo MAY or COULD work from your own view but sadly (or maybe luckily) you are wrong on many points. Apollo core shares the same regfile design as IBM POWER8 CPU making it very suitable for ASIC. Since you never seen the source all you can do is spread rumours and your own views.
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Old 21 June 2017, 11:38   #103
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well, ok. So, that's mean that a new about, let's say the new Aros nighty build is allowed in the news section, but a video about the progress of the AGA integration is not, right ?

Can you tell me where I have to post the next video, so I don't do any mistake the next time ?
Thank you.
Oh man... seriously... is it really that difficult to understand?

The point of my post is that these "new hardware related" threads always end up the same way, bitching / moaning / fighting... I get that's not your fault but...

It's not good for EAB when people see this type of stuff going on. What sort of image does that portray? If I was a new member and read all this negative stuff I sure as hell would leave quite quickly.

Again, these "News" threads are broadcast across the whole www.abime.net network. I for one will not in future approve any new hardware related threads that I believe may possibly get out of hand.

You can post them in the Amiga Scene or Hardware section instead
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Old 21 June 2017, 11:44   #104
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Oh man... seriously... is it really that difficult to understand?
I just don't get why an news about the progress of the AGA is not.... well, a new.

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If I was a new member and read all this negative stuff I sure as hell would leave quite quickly.
Ok, I'm sorry for having disturbed EAB, my goal was just to push an information to the people, not starting a flameware.

I won't post anymore on EAB, so it will avoid the problem.
 
Old 21 June 2017, 11:46   #105
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You are really missing the point and I give up trying to explain further.

...if you don't want to post on EAB anymore then that's totally your decision. It's not what I've said to you or anyone else for that matter...
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Old 21 June 2017, 12:16   #106
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@ DamienD :

I personnaly find sad that I'm now not allowed anymore to post more video of the AGA integration, but I respect your choice as moderator. I will then continue to post them on other forums.
Have a nice day.

NNNNNNOOOOOOooooooo.......!!!!!!

Please don't stop. Post to Hardware instead of news or something, but please continue.
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Old 21 June 2017, 12:17   #107
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You are really missing the point and I give up trying to explain further.

...if you don't want to post on EAB anymore then that's totally your decision. It's not what I've said to you or anyone else for that matter...
Is it possible to lock NEWS topis from any comments across the board?

Let developers make their NEWS announcements and if people want to comment on that then they can start their own topic in another sub-forum to discuss "the news".

I dunno, I'm fishing here for an in between.
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Old 21 June 2017, 12:21   #108
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Is it possible to lock NEWS topis from any comments across the board?

Let developers make their NEWS announcements and if people want to comment on that then they can start their own topic in another sub-forum to discuss "the news".

I dunno, I'm fishing here for an in between.
Of course we as Global Moderators (who need to approve any thread posted under the "News" section) could lock the thread immediately but don't really want to down that route...
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Old 21 June 2017, 12:29   #109
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Copy pasted from;

http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=5&note=6647

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Amiga 1000 with Vampire V2-500, Apollo Gold 3 team test core.
A1000, with 4 meg ChipRam, AGA, HDMI Video out with Audio.
Meet Pamela the new audio out custom chip.

Youtube links
[ Show youtube player ]

[ Show youtube player ]

GOLD 3 Beta

Note the A1000 is loading game from SD card.
the A4000 is loading game over Samba share, this is why the load time is slower.
the comparison is to show the ChipRam and AGA are working on the Gold 3 core even on an A1000


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Old 21 June 2017, 12:43   #110
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The fact you don't understand what he writes, does not mean it's nonsense and that other people can't get it.
Matt writes technical facts and anyone with enough knowledge will not find him difficult to understand.
Then go and help him build his superior 68k CPU.
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Old 21 June 2017, 12:56   #111
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In Germany we have a popular saying:
People always know it better, till they have to do it by their own. Same here, endless discussion without a result. Only the Apollo team is delivering! And my A600 with Vampire v2 is a fantastic piece of hardware beating my A1200 with Blizzard 1260.
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Old 21 June 2017, 13:11   #112
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Then go and help him build his superior 68k CPU.
I don't need to.
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Old 21 June 2017, 13:14   #113
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OK, let's point out some of the biggest deficiencies in Matt's nonsense...
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Apollo ISA: 64 bit integer unit registers are shared with 64 bit SIMD unit registers in the ISA
Reason: resources worked out nicely in the current Altera FPGA
Result: 128, 256, or 512 bit SIMD unit registers would give 128, 256 or 512 bit wide integer unit registers slowing down a critical path
The POWER8 has the same register design as Apollo Core, i.e. integer registers and wide SIMD registers are the same. The POWER8 runs at 5 GHz and is at the time of writing the fastest processor in the world. So you are wrong with your claim "slows down a critical path". Reality proves you wrong which is something that even non-tech savvy people should understand.

Did I mention already that Gunnar took part in designing the POWER8? Matt, remind us, which real-world CPU did you help design?
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The POWER8 has the same register design as Apollo Core, i.e. integer registers and wide SIMD registers are the same. The POWER8 runs at 5 GHz and is at the time of writing the fastest processor in the world. So you are wrong with your claim "slows down a critical path". Reality proves you wrong which is something that even non-tech savvy people should understand.

Did I mention already that Gunnar took part in designing the POWER8?
Amiga community does not want a POWER8. It wants a 68k.
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Did I mention already that Gunnar took part in designing the POWER8? Matt, remind us, which real-world CPU did you help design?
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I think its just 789 times you repeated that.
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Old 21 June 2017, 14:04   #116
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Amiga community does not want a POWER8. It wants a 68k.
Speak for yourself please, not for the community.
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Old 21 June 2017, 14:21   #117
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can anyone now post the image with the mods made by MaSch on a1k?
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Speak for yourself please, not for the community.
People who wanted to leave for Power family already did.
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can anyone now post the image with the mods made by MaSch on a1k?
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thank you, thgill.
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