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Old 18 April 2017, 01:37   #1
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MacOS System 7.0.1 Compilation (archive.org)

For those fans of fusion, shapeshifter and basilik comes a lega resource:l

This is a pair of compilation hard drives that contain a full copy of MacOS 7.0.1, along with a range of games, applications, utilities and toys to demonstrate the experience of using an early Macintosh computer.

System Programs: HyperCard, Macintosh Basics, Control Panels.
Applications: BBEdit Lite, MacDraw, MacPaint, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft Word, Microsoft Works, Orion, Pagemaker, ZTerm.
Games: Risk, Cannon Fodder, Shufflepuck.
Utilities: HD Setup, Disinfectant, Disk Copy, ResEdit, TeachText, Compact Pro, Mac Gzip, Mar, Stuffit Expander, Stuffit Lite.
Toys: Alarm Clock, Calculator, Note Pad, Puzzle, Scrapbook.

https://blog.archive.org/2017/04/16/...o-the-archive/
https://archive.org/details/mac_MacOS_7.0.1_compilation
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Old 18 April 2017, 07:27   #2
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Ah, neat. I got Shapeshifter booting OS 7.5 but I wasn't digging out my old Mac software collection and trying to figure out how to get it all going again.
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Old 18 April 2017, 09:22   #3
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It's not as though it's any more legal than any other hardfile, it's just that it comes from archive.org who are exempt from legal persecution.

I wonder what the community will say once archive.org releases an Amiga hardfile with Workbench and Kickstart…
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'thank you for publicly exhibiting history' ?
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Old 18 April 2017, 20:34   #5
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are hd file supposed to work on shapeshifter out of the box or do they need some conversion before? I tried with no luck...
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Old 18 April 2017, 21:44   #6
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hmm those are .img files; not sure since it's been a while i don't use mac os classic, but you should pass it through binhex in mac os first then use imagemounter to see it as virtual drives
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I'm Apple HFS, on AMiGA OS you mount as CD CD ROM
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Old 22 April 2017, 16:39   #8
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For those fans of fusion, shapeshifter and basilik comes a legal resource:
Except that's not true. Archive.org is a private company that is just archiving everything - without asking permission. Apple *today* (04/22/2017) still says that "none of the Macintosh system software is freely redistributable".
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Archive.org is a 501c3, and yes they have a definite DMCA exception ruling: http://www.copyright.gov/fedreg/2009/74fr55138.pdf (although a discussion could be had over the extent and their use of it.)

Please consider doing some elementary fact checking before doing your usual thingy Jim.
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What you linked to has absolutely nothing to do with copyright infringements due to redistribution of software without permission of the copyright holder. Contact Apple yourself. They are clearly the copyright holder and have explicitly stated that they have not released their copyrighted material for free redistribution. Any material on the Archive.org site that is copyrighted, and there without permission of the copyright holder, is there illegaly. There are absolutely no exceptions. Copyrights in the U.S. last the life of the author plus 75 years. It's really annoying when people think that because some piece of software is old, it is somehow free.

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Jim, they have an unmistakable building on Funston if you want to go start the picket line.
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Old 23 April 2017, 08:29   #12
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Except that's not true. Archive.org is a private company that is just archiving everything - without asking permission. Apple *today* (04/22/2017) still says that "none of the Macintosh system software is freely redistributable".


Sorry, but you're wrong. Apple provided Macos 6 & 7 on their website for some time as a free download. I tried to search for the "older software download" website from maccare where it used to reside, but as LowEndMac states, the website has changed a lot since the last time I legally downloaded the software.
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Sorry, but you're wrong. Apple provided Macos 6 & 7 on their website for some time as a free download. I tried to search for the "older software download" website from maccare where it used to reside, but as LowEndMac states, the website has changed a lot since the last time I legally downloaded the software.
Yes, that's interesting.

this link seems to point to downloads direct from Apple:

http://www.gryphel.com/c/sw/system/sys60/

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copyright: Apple Computer, Inc. 
mod date: May 10, 1991 
license: free, but don't redistribute
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No guys. JimDrew checked with his 6 lawyers already, and the case is very clear.

Now, do something productive. Here are some felt-tipped markers, and here is some poster-board and tape for everyone. The pile of cut-up fencing wood is over in the corner. Put your signs together and lets join behind his picket-march at archive.org headquarters in San Francisco. Can you believe that computers were designed to be able to copy long strings of numbers without checking with all possible owners of a given string of numbers? What were they thinking?! We can put an end to this travesty and restore order and a few cents of potential profit to copyright holders, if we only work together. Raise those signs and sing with me now:

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Every string is sacred
Every string is good.

If a string is needed
Prepare to pay the fee

If you take the string for free
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Ah, I knew it was just a matter of time before someone here would start pounding the gavel.
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On related news and also for Jim's interest.

http://de4.aminet.net/misc/emu/ShapeShifter_src.readme

That is a cool release! I'm surprised its fully in assembler.

Many thanks to Christian and the sourcecodepreservation dudes.
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ASP guys are awesome!
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Sorry, but you're wrong. Apple provided Macos 6 & 7 on their website for some time as a free download.
That is absolutely TRUE.
When I got my Mac classic II, I remember downloading a FULL set of OS6 and 7 disks and stuff from Apple.com. I installed System 7.1 in it from those disks.

Wayback Machine doesn't seem to work for me now but I am sure it has cached the old downloads page with System 6 and 7 on it. They used to have a LOT of software on that page,
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This is a pair of compilation hard drives that contain a full copy of MacOS 7.0.1, along with a range of games, applications, utilities and toys to demonstrate the experience of using an early Macintosh computer.
very good compilation, thanks
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Old 24 April 2017, 23:07   #20
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According to Apple, Inc. (who I contacted about this subject recently as well as every year since the early 90's) states that the Macintosh system software is not redistributable (as shown in the copyright message above). If Apple wants to release it via their website, then that would be the only method of legally getting it. However, Apple states that it is not available for download. Contact Apple yourself for confirmation.
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