Hybris original not installing in latest slave!

BarryB · 06 March 2017, 14:57

Managed to obtain a copy of Hybris (Blue box, Discovery release) but the disk won't install in WHDLoad on my real A1200 using the latest slave, says 'Sector missing on track 5' when installing? Same for the CT RAW in WinUAE, same error? The official IPF 1457 does install and my disk has the same label: HYBRIS 0.95 same as the SPS IPF.

The CT RAW image made from my KF dump loads and plays fine in WinUAE, with the cheat I can play all 3 stages to the end and no issues while playing or loading so is this another variant or just bad disk?

If anyone wants to check then the KF dump and CT RAW are here:

https://1drv.ms/f/s!ACq_uvJgtaXrhBM

dlfrsilver · 06 March 2017, 15:59

i'll check your dump tonight Barry

BarryB · 06 March 2017, 18:55

Thanks

I also noticed when loading it never actually loads Track 5 (or T2.1) so it doesn't appear to be used? Seems to load T0 and T1 then jumps to T7 to continue loading, T68.0 onwards appear unformatted.

dlfrsilver · 06 March 2017, 20:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

Thanks

I also noticed when loading it never actually loads Track 5 (or T2.1) so it doesn't appear to be used? Seems to load T0 and T1 then jumps to T7 to continue loading, T68.0 onwards appear unformatted.

Ok i have checked your CTraw. Basically, your dump is good. Only track 39.1 is bad, and the reason is most probably that someone saved his score on the disk....

BarryB · 06 March 2017, 21:58

Thanks for checking Denis

The high score table looks original to me, same as SPS 1457 in fact, same names and scores? When loading, it does pause on track 39 and the number goes red in WinUAE showing it's trying to write to that track (but can't as it's RAW) so what's it actually trying to write?

So if it's 'clean' apart from 39.1 then why doesn't it install in WHDLoad? Other than it's a different revision of course I can't see any other reason.

Abaddon · 07 March 2017, 03:25

The version I have does not install as well. I get a failure on track 21. The track syncs are different on different mastering/versions. Your version and my version have different syncs on different tracks. Sword of Sodan, Hybris, and Arkanoid also have the same disk format with different versions having different syncs

Each track is one of the following syncs:

0x5412, 0x2145, 0x2541, 0x4252, 0x4489, 0x5241,
0x9521, 0x448A, 0xA424, 0xA425, 0xA429, 0xA484,
0x2144

BarryB · 07 March 2017, 14:10

Thanks for the clarification and explanation

So the slave needs to check for all 13 syncs then? I'll file a bug report to the author!

UGH! Tried to fill out the bug report form on WHDLoad but it keeps saying SPAM keyword detected but doesn't tell you what that keyword is, so can't submit the bug report as I don't no what keyword it's found, bloody useful!!

Retro-Nerd · 07 March 2017, 14:20

Send the disk images to Psygore. He will support them all, i'm pretty sure.

BarryB · 07 March 2017, 14:37

I'll PM him, cheers

dlfrsilver · 07 March 2017, 16:04

thanks Barry for sharing this alternate version

dlfrsilver · 07 March 2017, 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

Thanks for the clarification and explanation

So the slave needs to check for all 13 syncs then? I'll file a bug report to the author!

UGH! Tried to fill out the bug report form on WHDLoad but it keeps saying SPAM keyword detected but doesn't tell you what that keyword is, so can't submit the bug report as I don't no what keyword it's found, bloody useful!!

Yes Abaddon answer is exactly the problem. They changed the sync sequences from a batch to another.....

BarryB · 07 March 2017, 16:36

Amazing how many variants of a release there are.

One interesting thing or Discovery

is when you load the game in WinUAE in NTSC mode it loads data from different tracks, e.g. when booting in NTSC it loads T0 to T6 but PAL loads T0 to T1 then T7 to T12 so it appears to have both PAL/NTSC code! It also loads from varying tracks before getting to the title screen depending on PAL or NTSC.

dlfrsilver · 07 March 2017, 18:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

Amazing how many variants of a release there are.

One interesting thing or Discovery

is when you load the game in WinUAE in NTSC mode it loads data from different tracks, e.g. when booting in NTSC it loads T0 to T6 but PAL loads T0 to T1 then T7 to T12 so it appears to have both PAL/NTSC code! It also loads from varying tracks before getting to the title screen depending on PAL or NTSC.

Indeed, so many releases ahaha

06 March 2017, 14:57	#1
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Hybris original not installing in latest slave! Managed to obtain a copy of Hybris (Blue box, Discovery release) but the disk won't install in WHDLoad on my real A1200 using the latest slave, says 'Sector missing on track 5' when installing? Same for the CT RAW in WinUAE, same error? The official IPF 1457 does install and my disk has the same label: HYBRIS 0.95 same as the SPS IPF. The CT RAW image made from my KF dump loads and plays fine in WinUAE, with the cheat I can play all 3 stages to the end and no issues while playing or loading so is this another variant or just bad disk? If anyone wants to check then the KF dump and CT RAW are here: https://1drv.ms/f/s!ACq_uvJgtaXrhBM

07 March 2017, 14:10	#7
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Thanks for the clarification and explanation So the slave needs to check for all 13 syncs then? I'll file a bug report to the author! UGH! Tried to fill out the bug report form on WHDLoad but it keeps saying SPAM keyword detected but doesn't tell you what that keyword is, so can't submit the bug report as I don't no what keyword it's found, bloody useful!! Last edited by BarryB; 07 March 2017 at 14:34.

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06 March 2017, 15:59	#2
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	i'll check your dump tonight Barry

06 March 2017, 18:55	#3
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Thanks I also noticed when loading it never actually loads Track 5 (or T2.1) so it doesn't appear to be used? Seems to load T0 and T1 then jumps to T7 to continue loading, T68.0 onwards appear unformatted.

06 March 2017, 21:58	#5
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Thanks for checking Denis The high score table looks original to me, same as SPS 1457 in fact, same names and scores? When loading, it does pause on track 39 and the number goes red in WinUAE showing it's trying to write to that track (but can't as it's RAW) so what's it actually trying to write? So if it's 'clean' apart from 39.1 then why doesn't it install in WHDLoad? Other than it's a different revision of course I can't see any other reason.

07 March 2017, 03:25	#6
Abaddon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chicago/USA Age: 54 Posts: 651	The version I have does not install as well. I get a failure on track 21. The track syncs are different on different mastering/versions. Your version and my version have different syncs on different tracks. Sword of Sodan, Hybris, and Arkanoid also have the same disk format with different versions having different syncs Each track is one of the following syncs: 0x5412, 0x2145, 0x2541, 0x4252, 0x4489, 0x5241, 0x9521, 0x448A, 0xA424, 0xA425, 0xA429, 0xA484, 0x2144

07 March 2017, 14:20	#8
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	Send the disk images to Psygore. He will support them all, i'm pretty sure.

07 March 2017, 14:37	#9
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	I'll PM him, cheers

07 March 2017, 16:04	#10
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	thanks Barry for sharing this alternate version

07 March 2017, 16:36	#12
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Amazing how many variants of a release there are. One interesting thing or Discovery is when you load the game in WinUAE in NTSC mode it loads data from different tracks, e.g. when booting in NTSC it loads T0 to T6 but PAL loads T0 to T1 then T7 to T12 so it appears to have both PAL/NTSC code! It also loads from varying tracks before getting to the title screen depending on PAL or NTSC.

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