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Old 20 February 2017, 12:57   #1
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Pinball on Amiga 1200 does not work

Hi All

I have problem starting Pinball Dreams and Fantasies on my Amiga 1200. I have a stock Amiga 1200 with a CF hard drive installed running workbench and WHDLoad.

Here are the symptoms

Pinball Dreams : object not found on locking pd_data
Pinball Fantasies : The game starts, music plays, it acts on keyboard, but screen is black

My startup sequence is the following :

- pressing both mouse buttons to enter boot menu, disable all drives, but system
- select skip startup sequence.
- I have 166456 Chip ram
- typing addbuffers dh0: -128 gives me 1729800 chip ram

then I go the the game dir and start the game by the

wbrun pinballdreams


When I hooked up the same CF card with WinUAE and 8MB ram then both games worked perfectly. What should I do to run them on a real stock amiga?
Old 20 February 2017, 13:51   #2
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Pinball Dreams

Game requires 1.3 MB Chip Mem (+ 2.3 other memory for preload option)
Pinball Fantasies:

required Chip Memory 1024 KiB ($100000)
required Expansion Memory 1536 KiB ($180000)
Only chance is to disable the PRELOAD tooltype in the games icon. Then you probably get a black flickering and sound stutter while it's loading but is could work on a stock A1200. Some games really needs fast ram though.

edit: Pinball Fantasies has a normal Amiga DOS installer. So it could work on stock A1200 too. If the WB eats too much ram than maybe booting without startup-sequence helps.

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Pinball Dreams
If the WB eats too much ram than maybe booting without startup-sequence helps.
There is no chance to load anything from WB on a stock Amiga. As I wrote above everything was started by skip startup sequence, still it was not enough.
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Have you actually installed Pinball Fantasies (try both OCS/ECS and AGA) with the official installer from the disks? WHDLoad may not work due to low ram but i would try at least the DOS installer.

For Pinball Dreams: There is a JST version on the EAB File Server = Commodore_Amiga/Retroplay/JST/ folder. This could work.

The HD-Patched game will need 2Mb of memory.
It should work on ALL Kickstarts and ALL CPUs (up to '060).
Tested on A1200/68060/16MB and A1200/020/NoFast
Report me any bugs you'll find.

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I've added a link to JST installs in my WHDLoad thread just now.

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Pinball Dreams install might be this issue: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=1129114&postcount=2
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Doesn't WHDLoad take away 512k RAM even if it's the correct ROM for the machine?

If so then it's reducing the RAM of a stock A1200 by at least a quarter...

Probably best to install from the games proper HD installer?
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