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Old 09 January 2017, 22:55   #1
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Possible problem with Collision detection !

Tested configuration: quickstart A500, KS12 or KS13, 512KB + in Chipset set the Collision level to Full. (tested on WinUAE 3400)

The problem: collision detection in two examples:

Rotor (1989)(Arcana)[cr CLS][t +1 Aurora].adf (CRC 30495158)
Rotor (1989)(Arcana)[cr Defjam - CCS][t +3 FLT].adf (CRC B382936E)

If in the 1st menu change :
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F2 - Unlimited lives OFF -> to ON
F3 - Collisions ON -> to OFF
-------------------------------

In the game play the "ship" is destroyed when pass the "border" area !? (hmm, but the collisions is set to OFF)

Does it behave the same on a real machine too ?

Edit: If it doesn't, that would mean collisions are not yet "Full" emulated !


PS.

And this one (for example) is not problematic in the WinUAE:

Rotor (1989)(Arcana)[cr][t +4 ATZ].adf (CRC 498B9599)

If in the 1st menu change:
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Unlimited Lives: OFF -> to ON
Collision Backgr: ON -> to OFF
----------------------------

It works as expected ! (i.e. its possible to pass the "border" area with the "ship" without being destroyed)

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Old 11 January 2017, 17:20   #2
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A500 confirmed = Bad/broken trainer. EDIT: Newer TOSEC has different names and has 2 other versions. (I didn't bother to test)
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Old 11 January 2017, 18:13   #3
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Just tested with the available TOSEC versions; all are bad
  • Rotor (1989)(Arcana)[cr Defjam - CCS - ACC].adf
  • Rotor (1989)(Arcana)[cr Defjam - CCS - ACC][t +3 FLT].adf
  • Rotor (1989)(Arcana)[cr Defjam - CCS - ACC][t +3 FLT][a].adf
  • Rotor (1989)(Arcana)[cr Defjam - CCS - ACC][t +4 ATZ].adf
...even the first one listed without a trainer.

Looks like the game needs to be cracked / trained properly. There seems to be an .IPF file listed on SPS website but it's not available in TOSEC...
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Old 11 January 2017, 18:15   #4
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What do you mean by bad? Did you forgot to enable full collision? (this is the ONLY known game that needs it!)
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Old 11 January 2017, 18:17   #5
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What do you mean by bad? Did you forgot to enable full collision? (this is the ONLY known game that needs it!)
Ah, didn't know that. I never enable full collision.

Ok, back to testing
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Old 11 January 2017, 18:35   #6
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A500 confirmed = Bad/broken trainer. EDIT: Newer TOSEC has different names and has 2 other versions. (I didn't bother to test)
Thanks! (the dilemma has been solved)
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