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Old 04 November 2016, 00:37   #1
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When will we be getting a new 1200 amiga.

is there anyone out there , is somebody going to make a nice shiny amiga 1200 a nice micro board ,is there any plans theres not many about these days to buy and eventually there all be dead , so come on please build a nice shiny one .

anyone got news give me some hope.

must have a real chip socket like an o40 060 , we could put our own in , more video memory and defo flicker and HD output.
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Old 04 November 2016, 00:47   #2
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At some point we get the Amiga reloaded.

http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/Amiga_reloaded
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Old 04 November 2016, 10:20   #3
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Vampire standalone too eventually, but no, nobody has any plans for a socketed board to put an old 68k series processor in it.

Reloaded will take accellerator boards, and vampire stand alone is FPGA/ASIC
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Vampire standalone too eventually, but no, nobody has any plans for a socketed board to put an old 68k series processor in it.

Reloaded will take accellerator boards, and vampire stand alone is FPGA/ASIC
Vampire standalone is not really an A1200 replacement board since it does not have headers for legacy stuff like the floppy drive etc.
A1200 Reloaded with the new cases and perhaps soon new keyboards and Amiga-fied new PC floppy drives will be as close to a new 1200 as you can get, short of finding a NOS one (which is still old and needs recapping).
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Vampire standalone is not really an A1200 replacement board since it does not have headers for legacy stuff like the floppy drive etc.
I know that, but it's the only other option on the table at the moment, and retro-nerd had already mentioned the Reloaded board.
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Old 07 November 2016, 12:53   #6
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What about MIST and Mimimig? I guess they could be integrated into an A1200 chassis.
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Old 08 November 2016, 18:36   #7
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True, but then you could also include Raspberry Pi and other SBC's running UAE too.
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True, but then you could also include Raspberry Pi and other SBC's running UAE too.
MIST and Minimig are FPGA implementations (just like Apollo/Vampire), not software emulators like UAE so there is a big difference.
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Meh, just splitting hairs now.
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I had high hopes for the Amiga Reloaded mobo, because we all know Jens can deliver products. But by now its about 8 months late and still very quiet. I'm sure Jens has some plans, just don't know what they are, so its hard to pitch it as a recommended solution to your problems... ;-)
Anyhoo, at this point I think Vampire standalone just might actually beat the Amiga Reloaded to market so that would be my plan B.
New Amiga cases are (almost) being manufactured right now, or at least very soon (matter of days?) so there's a good chance to get new parts and put something together that looks and feels like an Amiga, albeit with some trade offs..

That being said.. the options above both require faith and waiting.. if you get a second hand A1200 in good condition recap it with organic polymer caps and don't do other stupid things with it, chances are it will work for a looong time..
You should be good for a decade or so.. After that, Im pretty sure there will be super high end FPGAs capable of running the Apollo Core at 10GHz ;-)
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That being said.. the options above both require faith and waiting.. if you get a second hand A1200 in good condition recap it with organic polymer caps and don't do other stupid things with it, chances are it will work for a looong time..
You should be good for a decade or so..
A decade or so? Damn - I was counting on at least another 20 years.
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A decade or so? Damn - I was counting on at least another 20 years.
Who knows... Could be several decades...
My oldest hardware in my collection is about 40 years old, so I have little practical experience beyond that.



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organic polymer caps
Pfft organic caps. GMO caps are the future They don't spoil as fast
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Pfft organic caps. GMO caps are the future They don't spoil as fast
But they mutate :-)

Seriously though.. Realistically, any set of quality caps should be good for at least 20 years. Even electrolytic ones.
But I honestly don't know how the rest of the chips will cope... Then again.. In 20 years you will probably 3d print your next set of caps ;-)

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That nobody can build and sell A1200m's in an age when Nintendo can sell out of NES Minis is sad.. So truly very very terribly sad..
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That nobody can build and sell A1200m's in an age when Nintendo can sell out of NES Minis is sad.. So truly very very terribly sad..
The Apollo Team are working on a standalone amiga replacement board. ;-)

There are new A1200 cases being manufactured as we speak. new key caps are coming.

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