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Old 25 September 2016, 11:57   #1
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EAB/Lemon Super League 2016: Round 12 - Lemmings

EAB/Lemon Super League 2016: Round 12 - Lemmings

Starts: 00:01 September 25 Finishes: 23:59 October 15

Rules

Post a picture of your score here with the score written underneath. Enter as often as you like. Only scores achieved during the round's time frame count.

Post a score for the following Levels
Fun Level 21 - NNHCCJNFDV - You Live and Lem
Fun Level 22 - FHBIJLLGDP - Shadow of the Beast Level
Tricky Level 14 - HMDIBINMEW - Menace Level
Taxing Level 14 - NHMDHFALGS - Awesome
Taxing Level 20 - FINLMDHQGT - Spider Web
Mayhem Level 1 - NHMFHFALHV - Iron Clad bridge level

You will need to take your screenshot with at least 1 lemming remaining.

Scoring: (time in seconds - (5 x Lemmings Left Out)) * Lemmings In %


No cheating of any kind (including score leeching) - this includes save states. No continues/passwords allowed. If you suspect anyone of cheating please let us know in private - anyone found guilty will be banned for the entire season.

Remember, anyone can join in at any time. Have fun and feel free to ask any questions you may have.

Downloads

- Disk 1, Disk 2
- WHDLoad-installed

Extras

- Full rules and FAQ (incorporating the Hall of Fame)
- Results and Standings
- Lemon thread
- Live League Ladder


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Old 25 September 2016, 11:59   #2
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Sorry for the delay in this, but I just need to 100% confirm the levels and scoring system we are going to use.

It has been discussed - four levels to be played, and I suspect that we are going to score based on time remaining and percentage of lemmings saved - but I'd rather not jump the gun and assume the current method that has been talked about is the one we are definitely going to use.
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Old 26 September 2016, 13:32   #3
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The choosen levels and scoring system has now been added.

The scoring system may look complicated, but once we get going the basic principle for scoring well should become clear.

Please remain slightly open to tweaking of the score system as we are not sure how the more diffulcult levels will pan out.
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Old 26 September 2016, 20:01   #4
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At what point should the picture be taken - just as the screen starts to fade out?
Leaving it any longer than that is pointless - you only get the % saved and % required in the completion screen.

Edit:

Fun Level 21 is called You Live and Lem, not Dinosaur. (Atleast in the ADFs anyway)

Edit 2:

Urgh. The % reads 00%, instead of 100% when all Lemmings reach home

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Old 26 September 2016, 22:17   #5
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I appreciate the mods putting a lot of thought into this and they seem to have come up with a good albeit complicated scoring system.

Here are three screenshots of the first level. The first is a submission on it's own with one lemming left. The second and third both come from the same attempt as one another and hopefully provide proof that all 100 lemmings were saved. Can that be accepted? Because it reads on Lemon like you want us to always sacrifice at least one lemming.

Is this correct?

1: (375-5)*.99=366.3?
2: (375-0)*1=375?
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Can that be accepted? Because it reads on Lemon like you want us to always sacrifice at least one lemming.
We might have to do it that way to avoid the "is that 100% or 00%?" debate.


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Is this correct?

1: (375-5)*.99=366.3?
2: (375-0)*1=375?
The way I read it is that your scores would be thus:

1: (375-5)*99=36,630
2: (375-0)*100=37,500


Please can the mods confirm the above questions. I am itching to get playing properly on this game
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Old 27 September 2016, 03:13   #7
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Your screenshot shows 00% that is why we are saying to take it with one lemming remaining.

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Is this correct?

1: (375-5)*.99=366.3?
2: (375-0)*1=375.0?
Yes.

Although to enter them in the score table which only accepts integers currently we will enter them as 3663 and 3750
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from reading the lemon thread you can never have 100% and you must always keep one lemming left and hence always have at least 5 second penalty. So you cannot have a -0 score

This correct ?
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So this correct ?

Fun Level 21 -(368 - 5) * 99 = 35,937

or

Fun Level 21 -(368 - 5) * 99% = 363.05
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Getting a lot of lock ups. Anyone else getting this. And it's not the emulator cause can quit back to workbench


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Fun Level 21 - (368 -5) * 99% = 363.05
Fun Level 22 - (43 -5) * 99% = 37.62
Tricky Level 14 - (176 -5 ) * 97% = 165.87
Taxing Level 14 - (54 - 0) * 98% = 52.92 (caught this as it was fading out think the - zero counts. I hope)
Taxing Level 20 - (177-5) * 14% = 24.08
Mayhem Level 1 -

Total so far 643.54
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Sorry for a gap in communication. I wrote a guide on Lemon, so players can check that out, but essentially:

For example,
2mins 10seconds and 99% saved would be:
(60seconds x2+10)= 130 seconds x .99 = 128.7 (or x 99 = 12870, same score).

I personally would stick to x 99 or x100 instead of .99 or .1, as this just gets confusing.

Capehorn - 36630 points is correct, 37500 points is correct. Yes I ran a secario in my mind last night where a player could explode all remaining lemmings and causing it to pause before fading away, and showing the 00 (100%) on screen. So I guess its possible to save 100% on some levels, and have Zero out.

SoulAssassin: 35,937 is correct in your first post. Yes your numbers seem ok.

We'll have to see what this looks like in real terms once the score boards fill out. Not sure if Graham will post all 6 for Lemmings on EAB, but they are on Lemon anyway. Happy gaming.

edit: yes, Dinosaur, spider web and iron clad are the quick names I gave to the levels to make them short for the high scores tables. Renaming them to their full names would just be impossible, but Mike has now changed the Dinosaur level to You Live and Lem for you.

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Sorry for a gap in communication. I wrote a guide on Lemon, so players can check that out, but essentially:

For example,
2mins 10seconds and 99% saved would be:
(60seconds x2+10)= 130 seconds x .99 = 128.7 (or x 99 = 12870, same score).

I personally would stick to x 99 or x100 instead of .99 or .1, as this just gets confusing.

Capehorn - 36630 points is correct, 37500 points is correct. Yes I ran a secario in my mind last night where a player could explode all remaining lemmings and causing it to pause before fading away, and showing the 00 (100%) on screen. So I guess its possible to save 100% on some levels, and have Zero out.

SoulAssassin: 35,937 is correct in your first post. Yes your numbers seem ok.

We'll have to see what this looks like in real terms once the score boards fill out. Not sure if Graham will post all 6 for Lemmings on EAB, but they are on Lemon anyway. Happy gaming.


In that case will re work out my scores


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SoulAssassin - Just remove the '.' and the scores are fine. But I had to remove your Zero Out score, not because of the score, but this was supposed to by the Awesome level from the game Awesome, and I made sure screenshots were easily identifyable. The level you completed was not Awesome, so perhaps somewhere there is a mix up with the passwords. I know some cracks have the levels in different orders?
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I wrote a guide on Lemon, so players can check that out
Thanks - will check it out.


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edit: yes, Dinosaur, spider web and iron clad are the quick names I gave to the levels to make them short for the high scores tables. Renaming them to their full names would just be impossible, but Mike has now changed the Dinosaur level to You Live and Lem for you.
Ahh, ok. I was a little worried I was playing the wrong levels.

Thanks for changing the name Mike
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SoulAssassin - Just remove the '.' and the scores are fine. But I had to remove your Zero Out score, not because of the score, but this was supposed to by the Awesome level from the game Awesome, and I made sure screenshots were easily identifyable. The level you completed was not Awesome, so perhaps somewhere there is a mix up with the passwords. I know some cracks have the levels in different orders?


I used the attached whdload and passwords. So don't get how could be wrong level. ?

Also just removing the decimal point is not the same as multiplying by 99


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So the level you mark as awesome goes to the "Hunt the nessy" level , which my screenshot clearly is of. Should it not be the hunt the nessy level ?

if os either the supplied password is wrong or the attached whdload version is wrong ?
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I solved the mystery. Sorry, I made an error, its level 15 Taxing which is the Awesome level, not 14 as listed, therefore the password is: NHMDHFALGS.

As it turns out, 'Walk The Web Rope' and 'Steel Works' are short enough titles for the high scores after all.


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I solved the mystery. Sorry, I made an error, its level 15 Taxing which is the Awesome level, not 14 as listed, therefore the password is: NHMDHFALGS.





Ok will give that a shot

Now should we multiplying scores by 0.99 and 1 or 99 and 100 ?


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My best from Fun 21...


Fun 21 - 35,838
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