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Old 30 September 2016, 18:22   #81
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Yes. I can imagine the expense of such an endeavor. I hope it happens - a new amiga focused company starting up in 2016. Yes please.
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Old 30 September 2016, 19:19   #82
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I have a slew of Amiga hardware designs, but there is no way that I would just suddenly have a pile of products for sale without finding out if there is even an interest in them.
There is a huge difference.

You are someone who has mentioned, made and actually DELIVERED products on the past, and still make and deliver items. You created some really complex devices back in the day, so you have a bunch of cred on your "resumé".

When a new, unknown person who has no track record on this scene tries to build a super ambitious device on the shoulders of a failed company, skepticism is well in place, in my opinion.
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Old 30 September 2016, 19:44   #83
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Seems you don't get my point. It is a big difference if you are asking about interest in the community and if they would buy something when its coming out, there is nothing wrong with that. But making big plans of this and that and having it sound as if its nearly finished and showing nothing is what makes everybody suspicious as it happened too often in the past.
You are making my point! That is what I am talking about. This in necessary and determines the level of interest and if something should be designed/produced.

Being skeptical and being negative to the point of a witch hunt are two entirely different things. I think at this point, any developer wanting to make something new should be welcomed, not ridiculed for doing something that might appear to be a rather large endeavor. As you pointed out, you don't know who this person is or their contacts. If they have the CPLD equasions, that's all they would need to re-produce any of the previous products. They wouldn't even need the schematics or the PCB artwork. Those can be easily created from an existing board. Really, it doesn't take much skill to do that.

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Old 30 September 2016, 20:12   #84
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Cool video link Retrofan:

Following what Retrofan said about the vídeo & for non spaniards

From the video talk:

The guy who brings back a new Phase5, Salvador Fernandez, was the RMA manager from the old P5. He worked later on BPlan and was the bussiness man who managed to do all the marketing, public relations and work delivering the products and taking care of talking to different companies.

Around end 2015 it was noticed that when Cloanto asked for the CPPC rom licence (amigaforever winuae ppc) not only Ralph Smith had the rights for it but another unnamed company had also bought the rights. So turns out that Salvador Fernandez was the whole 2015 buying all the stuff from P5, talking to hardware manufactures, doing all the the needed licenses for producing again the whole batch of Blizzards in Europe, etc. All in silence.

Still speculations around all of this, because nobody has seen papers to confirm those facts.

Following investigations from the speakers of the video about how to find enough 060's, guide to a company (NXP ) who had hundreds of them. Had, because the whole existance was sold to a german company last november (supossedly the new P5 ). All last Motorola 60mhz.

Some talking to Fernandez (Facebook?) shows that his idea is redoo the old stuff as close it was years ago & then depending on money earned on sales bring new hardware to Amiga.

Edit: I didn't talk to the person, it's what they say on the video.

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Old 01 October 2016, 13:37   #85
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"Scam" is a big word. Sometimes businesses and plans just go down the toilet...

in this case was a scam because they done it to make money for free
never was even a prototype of a G4 board, it was all a big hoax

this is something like the MARS ONE project, another scam which is looking for dumb inversors and sponsors to scam them
Imagine that it is not possible to travel to the moon they want to colonize mars
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Imagine that it is not possible to travel to the moon
Why would anyone imagine that?
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Why would anyone imagine that?
Because Stanley Kubrick is long since dead.
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Old 01 October 2016, 18:06   #88
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You are making my point! That is what I am talking about. This in necessary and determines the level of interest and if something should be designed/produced.

Being skeptical and being negative to the point of a witch hunt are two entirely different things.
It helps if one demonstrates some basic competence when showing such things, if you fail even that its perfectly normal scepticism arises.
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Old 01 October 2016, 18:28   #89
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Because if we couldn't travel to the moon, why think we can jump straight to Mars?
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Why would anyone imagine that?
because the NASA today does not have any rocket to carry enough tons of weight to make any travel to the moon, supposedly they are building one but almost nobody believes such thing
Their business today is scamming the media with the "curiosity" robot in mars
which is not on mars I sense
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is the not the trailer to new block buster film and building up interest in the brand and products
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because the NASA today does not have any rocket to carry enough tons of weight to make any travel to the moon
The scammer would say "the sky is the limit!". The scientist will reply "so why are there footsteps on the moon?"...
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Because if we couldn't travel to the moon, why think we can jump straight to Mars?
But how is that in any way relevant?

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supposedly they are building one but almost nobody believes such thing
Why is that so hard to believe?
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Why is that so hard to believe?
His tin foil hat does not let such things be believable
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But how is that in any way relevant?
Relevant only to the statement made by Sandro, in the context of not having technology yet that's capable of colonising the moon and therefore a company thinking it can go straight to Mars and simply colonise it!

Phase5 are at least dealing with technology that's already been made and proven so their only issue is actually proving they can make something worth buying!
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Why is that so hard to believe?
because Wernher von Braun died in 1977 and the saturn V documentation and plans were lost
now they are trying to build a rocket from scratch
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What do space nazis have to do with Phase5? i'm confused
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Building a rocket? as in laying a pipe line?
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What do space nazis have to do with Phase5? i'm confused
Don't be, all topics go OT on EAB. It's an EGO thing.
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