Joystick Buttons

Echo · 25 January 2003, 16:34

I've seen a few mentions of this in the "what was bad about Amiga" thread - regarding the fact that Amiga joysticks only have one button.

Now, my joystick broke the other week, and I had a friend send me a pad from a megadrive, which is compatible as you probably know. Out of A, B and C, button 'B' functions as the Amiga's fire button.

Played Turrican 1 last night, and accidently hit button C. It triggered the screen clear bomb! And the crouch + C triggered turning into a cog. How was this game clever enough to have multibutton support, when it was unheard of back then?

p.s. I'll report back with any other games that support button C

25 January 2003, 16:47

I've used a Sega Master System gamepad in the early days of my amiga experience and I'm using a sms joystick now, both have two buttons. Many games do support the second button, implicitly or explicitly. Street Fighter 2 does for example.

ElectroBlaster · 25 January 2003, 18:16

Another game that supports a megadrive pad is Apidya!

Dastardly · 26 January 2003, 02:19

Flashback supported a 2 button option aswell, to get the gun out I think it was.

Dalai · 26 January 2003, 06:43

Hired Guns did, although it recommended you open the pad up and change some wiring around.

26 January 2003, 07:43

I've got a Quickshot (maverick?) Joystick with 6 buttons and it is said to be used with Mega Drive only. It indeed doesn't work with amiga, I knew it wouldn't when I was buying it but it was new in the box so I had to get it. Dalai in which way can an incompatible Mega Drive device be modified so that it works with Amiga?

Severin · 26 January 2003, 16:07

If you look in the hardware manual that came with your miggy, you'll see the joystick port has 2 fire buttons...

Toni Wilen · 26 January 2003, 16:25

Both joystick ports support 3 buttons.

Konrad · 26 January 2003, 16:56

They do ? Interesting, I've never seen a game supporting three(!) buttons. Do you have any examples ?

Shatterhand · 27 January 2003, 10:38

3 buttons?

I knew about 2 buttons too, the 2nd button acts just like the right mouse button. No surprise here.

Dozens and dozens of games support it: Mortal Kombat II, Street Fighter II, Flashback, Apidya, Project X, Desert Strike, Fifa, John Madden, BC Kid, Brutal Sports Football, Total Football, and many many others. Not to mention Kick Off 3 that REQUIRES a 2 button controller.

manicx · 27 January 2003, 10:53

I am using a Megadrive pad since '91 with my miggy. There are so many games that support 2 buttons.

Konrad · 27 January 2003, 11:08

The 2nd button made life much easier in Flashback

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Shatterhand · 27 January 2003, 19:00

I used to play flashback with the keyboard. This way I had access to all buttons quickly

manicx · 28 January 2003, 08:45

I agree with Konrad. Flashback with two button joystick rocks!!! It's like a new game. Same goes for OnEscape...

Konrad · 28 January 2003, 16:05

Back to my question

. Does anybody now if there's an amiga game supporting three buttons ?

Akira · 29 January 2003, 15:51

FIFA and Flashback, but NOT on the A600s and A1200s, I think. Something about the ports being different? Toni?

You had to make a small adapter though, then you could use, in Flashback, A, B, C AND Start. Quite handy, but never tried it, since I never owned a 500.

KombatSanta · 29 January 2003, 16:58

Quote:

Originally posted by Akira
never tried it, since I never owned a 500.

It's about time now, don't ya' think?

Toni Wilen · 29 January 2003, 18:01

Quote:

FIFA and Flashback, but NOT on the A600s and A1200s, I think. Something about the ports being different? Toni?

Buttons 2 and 3 are connected to Paula's IO-ports. I don't think there are hardware differences because Paula has been the same since A1000.

Maybe game has strange bug or newer Kickstarts set wrong io-port mode (output instead of input) or something like that?

Button 1 is connected to CIA-A.

Drake1009 · 29 January 2003, 18:31

My 2 button joystick worked fine on flashback on my A1200.

Akira · 29 January 2003, 19:42

Yep two buttons work fine, but if you make teh adapter and want to use all 4 buttons, seems like it doesnt work in teh newer Amigas...
So said the mags! :P

25 January 2003, 16:34	#1
Echo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South-West Wales Posts: 382	Joystick Buttons I've seen a few mentions of this in the "what was bad about Amiga" thread - regarding the fact that Amiga joysticks only have one button. Now, my joystick broke the other week, and I had a friend send me a pad from a megadrive, which is compatible as you probably know. Out of A, B and C, button 'B' functions as the Amiga's fire button. Played Turrican 1 last night, and accidently hit button C. It triggered the screen clear bomb! And the crouch + C triggered turning into a cog. How was this game clever enough to have multibutton support, when it was unheard of back then? p.s. I'll report back with any other games that support button C

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25 January 2003, 16:47	#2
oldpx Posts: n/a	I've used a Sega Master System gamepad in the early days of my amiga experience and I'm using a sms joystick now, both have two buttons. Many games do support the second button, implicitly or explicitly. Street Fighter 2 does for example.

25 January 2003, 18:16	#3
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 38 Posts: 1,173	Another game that supports a megadrive pad is Apidya!

26 January 2003, 02:19	#4
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gods Country Age: 38 Posts: 2,009	Flashback supported a 2 button option aswell, to get the gun out I think it was.

26 January 2003, 06:43	#5
Dalai Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: UK Posts: 143	Hired Guns did, although it recommended you open the pad up and change some wiring around.

26 January 2003, 07:43	#6
oldpx Posts: n/a	I've got a Quickshot (maverick?) Joystick with 6 buttons and it is said to be used with Mega Drive only. It indeed doesn't work with amiga, I knew it wouldn't when I was buying it but it was new in the box so I had to get it. Dalai in which way can an incompatible Mega Drive device be modified so that it works with Amiga?

26 January 2003, 16:07	#7
Severin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gloucester / UK Age: 46 Posts: 692	If you look in the hardware manual that came with your miggy, you'll see the joystick port has 2 fire buttons...

26 January 2003, 16:25	#8
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 38 Posts: 11,945	Both joystick ports support 3 buttons.

26 January 2003, 16:56	#9
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 32 Posts: 541	They do ? Interesting, I've never seen a game supporting three(!) buttons. Do you have any examples ?

27 January 2003, 10:38	#10
Shatterhand Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brazil Age: 30 Posts: 1,637	3 buttons? I knew about 2 buttons too, the 2nd button acts just like the right mouse button. No surprise here. Dozens and dozens of games support it: Mortal Kombat II, Street Fighter II, Flashback, Apidya, Project X, Desert Strike, Fifa, John Madden, BC Kid, Brutal Sports Football, Total Football, and many many others. Not to mention Kick Off 3 that REQUIRES a 2 button controller.

27 January 2003, 10:53	#11
manicx Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 960	I am using a Megadrive pad since '91 with my miggy. There are so many games that support 2 buttons.

27 January 2003, 11:08	#12
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 32 Posts: 541	The 2nd button made life much easier in Flashback .

27 January 2003, 19:00	#13
Shatterhand Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brazil Age: 30 Posts: 1,637	I used to play flashback with the keyboard. This way I had access to all buttons quickly

28 January 2003, 08:45	#14
manicx Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 960	I agree with Konrad. Flashback with two button joystick rocks!!! It's like a new game. Same goes for OnEscape...

28 January 2003, 16:05	#15
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 32 Posts: 541	Back to my question . Does anybody now if there's an amiga game supporting three buttons ?

29 January 2003, 15:51	#16
Akira Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: # Posts: 12,584	FIFA and Flashback, but NOT on the A600s and A1200s, I think. Something about the ports being different? Toni? You had to make a small adapter though, then you could use, in Flashback, A, B, C AND Start. Quite handy, but never tried it, since I never owned a 500.

29 January 2003, 18:31	#19
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	My 2 button joystick worked fine on flashback on my A1200.

29 January 2003, 19:42	#20
Akira Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: # Posts: 12,584	Yep two buttons work fine, but if you make teh adapter and want to use all 4 buttons, seems like it doesnt work in teh newer Amigas... So said the mags! :P

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