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Old 08 December 2016, 16:52   #81
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@all - Please address your remarks about lack of patience to some well-known Kickstarter countdown timer, which sets the deadline for me to make certain decision. For me it would be no problem if the caps campaign started even 5 months later - given how long I wait for the Vampire (previously known as Natami) this is hardly any issue.

And I really don't like being blamed for being cautious regarding what I eventually decide to co-fund.

@Phil - Till now I had mainly one question - whether I will like the case or not. And no one but me will be able to answer it But this is something I totally don't understand:

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We're not manufacturing pizzas
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And well... they'll be delivered Q2 2017 at most.
It's perfectly OK if you can't tell when exactly the product will be sent, or that you are almost certain something unexpected will delay it. But why to make such a definite statements in this situation???
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Old 08 December 2016, 17:28   #82
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@all - Please address your remarks about lack of patience to some well-known Kickstarter countdown timer, which sets the deadline for me to make certain decision. For me it would be no problem if the caps campaign started even 5 months later - given how long I wait for the Vampire (previously known as Natami) this is hardly any issue.

And I really don't like being blamed for being cautious regarding what I eventually decide to co-fund.

@Phil - Till now I had mainly one question - whether I will like the case or not. And no one but me will be able to answer it But this is something I totally don't understand:



It's perfectly OK if you can't tell when exactly the product will be sent, or that you are almost certain something unexpected will delay it. But why to make such a definite statements in this situation???
It's fine to be cautious. It's the reason you gave for being cautious that was the problem. The team has been nothing but transparent about delays this whole time, and you're calling them out saying that you won't back the next project until they deliver the first, which isn't at all fair.

Anyway, I've said my piece, I think everyone should back this.
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Old 08 December 2016, 18:05   #83
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I'm sorry if someone got offended.

Unfortunately, I have seen countless of crowdfunding projects, Steam early accesses, etc., asking for funding and delivering either nothing or something far from what was described. I was thinking a lot whether to back the cases campaign, or just wait and purchase it in some shop, without any risk (eventually chosen the 1st option). I would really prefer to see the case before doing it again.
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Old 08 December 2016, 19:14   #84
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Oh look, someone from the US saying "socialist" as some sort of insult. How predictable. Thank you for confirming the stereotype, it is adorable.

Sorry Norway , don't get butthurt. Just talking about a little thing concerning venture capitalism. That's where socialism gets it's funding.

Okay, no more from me on politics, it is economics I wanted to focus on.
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Old 08 December 2016, 21:53   #85
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@Romanujan,

True, only you can tell if you'll like the case or not. In that there is not much i can do other than telling you that we've worked really hard so that hopefully *most* backers are going to like it.

And i really hope that you too are going to like it

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And well... they'll be delivered Q2 2017 at most.
These two statements are taken out of their context.
The first one "We're not manufacturing pizzas" mean that the projects we're working on are industrial processes and as such delays can happen. And these are not predictable.

The other statement "they'll be delivered Q2 2017 at most", mean that at last Keycaps will be sent to backers at the end to the Timeline. But it might be before that.

Reason is that I also stated i added 2 extra months (meaning they're included) to this time table you can see on the KS campaign.

I thought what i said was pretty clear and straight forward
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Just talking about a little thing concerning venture capitalism. That's where socialism gets it's funding.
Not at all, you should educate yourself. Or perhaps you cannot afford to.
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Not at all, you should educate yourself. Or perhaps you cannot afford to.
So I am guessing you are about 15 to 17 years old? Or the mental equivalent.
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