WinUAE: NRG format support

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 February 2016, 13:28

It is expected in the future of WinUAE support for image format NRG of Nero Burning? when to use this ISO format on WinUAE we have to convert it or use it through an external Virtual CD

Aegis · 16 February 2016, 14:36

Does anyone use Nero anymore? I've been using ImgBurn for over a decade now - Nero died for me when they started bloating it out with rippers/audio/video crapware.

I still have an old copy of 'Burning ROM' sitting around here on a CD somewhere though

I'd suggest Daemon's .mdx format as an alternative but to be honest, I rarely use Daemon Tools - .ISOs just work for the most part *shrug*

DamienD · 16 February 2016, 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aegis

Does anyone use Nero anymore? I've been using ImgBurn for over a decade now - Nero died for me when they started bloating it out with rippers/audio/video crapware.

Same for me

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 February 2016, 14:53

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Originally Posted by Aegis

Does anyone use Nero anymore?

I would not know, it's certainly one of the best software to burn any format under, with this software you can edit or create ISO with special formats as for example the DK-Karaoke CDs (CD + Graph) for CD32 who now work perfectly on WinUAE CD32-CDTV.

Devlin · 16 February 2016, 14:58

Last software I used to write a CD/DVD was ImgBurn. Nero Burning ROM got shite after the bloat started creeping in. I'd say convert your NRGs to ISO or BIN/CUE and use them that way

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 February 2016, 15:37

It depends on how you use which version you are using, the Nero Burning version 6 for example was very light, then not all ISO (NRG) they can successfully convert, here also it depends on the software used. For example, the ISO images of CDs DK Karaoke, if you convert from NRG-To-ISO become normal audio CDs without graphics, ImgBurn or any other similar software, i do not believe can create ISO or burn this and other special formats.

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Toni Wilen · 16 February 2016, 18:03

Nero does suck, it was ancient times when Nero was good (or even the best).

The real question is: does nrg spec exist?

Devlin · 16 February 2016, 18:51

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Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Nero does suck, it was ancient times when Nero was good (or even the best).

The real question is: does nrg spec exist?

it's on Wikipedia, it seems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRG_(file_format)

Aegis · 16 February 2016, 18:55

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

The file format specification below is unofficial and as such is lacking some data. There may also be errors.

Doesn't inspire much confidence

.NRG is proprietary and it looks like the open source tools that do exist have some limitations as a consequence.

I found this kinda neat though:

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

The nrg file format uses a variation of the Interchange File Format (IFF) and stores data in a chain of "chunks".

Only Amiga makes it possible

Mclane · 16 February 2016, 19:28

Nero, good lord, who uses that Neanderthal rubbish, as said, Imgburn is by far the most useful bit of software out there for burning AND its free (beware the attempts to give you adware rubbish tho).

Mind you, I've not burnt a disk in a year and a half.

As for a new format, please, lets keep it ISO friendly..

Toni Wilen · 16 February 2016, 19:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aegis

Only Amiga makes it possible

EA, not Amiga

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mclane

As for a new format, please, lets keep it ISO friendly..

You are not going to fit any audio tracks in ISO files. Or even more than one data track..

Toni Wilen · 16 February 2016, 19:34

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Originally Posted by Devlin

it's on Wikipedia, it seems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRG_(file_format)

Not very useful spec. Nothing about layout of actual track data or subchannel data.

Aegis · 16 February 2016, 19:56

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Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

EA, not Amiga

I remember them - they used to be a pretty cool company

Shame they're not around anymore...

SkulleateR · 16 February 2016, 21:00

If you still use Nero ... just use NRG2ISO to make those images to work in WinUAE

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 February 2016, 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mclane

Mind you, I've not burnt a disk in a year and a half.

With Nero Burning never burned a CD for more than 20 years

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 February 2016, 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkulleateR

If you still use Nero ... just use NRG2ISO to make those images to work in WinUAE

I use NRG2ISO, as well as other ISO conversion software, but as I said for some ISO "special" the conversion is not 1:1 as in the case CDs DK-Karaoke

ma693541 · 16 February 2016, 21:33

Try to use/burn a Multi-Session CD that both contains Linux-68K and the rest Amiga data. I have uploaded some AmigActive CD's as NRG image file's because at that time only Nero Burning Rom could make a proper image file of both. If you had Autorun activated on your PC, the machine would only read the Linux-68K session and that would give you a blue crash screen on Windows XP. So if someone could convert the AmigaActive, feel free to do so.

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 February 2016, 22:05

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Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

The real question is: does nrg spec exist?

I think so Toni, all the important programs that handle ISO images import the format NRG, i am attaching someone on scrennshot but I assure you they are many.

SkulleateR · 16 February 2016, 22:12

Errr .... basically NRG and ISO Images are the same, NRG is just using a different header ...

Toni Wilen · 16 February 2016, 22:17

No.

16 February 2016, 13:28	#1
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 69 Posts: 7,843	WinUAE: NRG format support It is expected in the future of WinUAE support for image format NRG of Nero Burning? when to use this ISO format on WinUAE we have to convert it or use it through an external Virtual CD

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16 February 2016, 14:36	#2
Aegis Gentleman Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: The Fortesque Mansion Posts: 246	Does anyone use Nero anymore? I've been using ImgBurn for over a decade now - Nero died for me when they started bloating it out with rippers/audio/video crapware. I still have an old copy of 'Burning ROM' sitting around here on a CD somewhere though I'd suggest Daemon's .mdx format as an alternative but to be honest, I rarely use Daemon Tools - .ISOs just work for the most part shrug

16 February 2016, 14:58	#5
Devlin Bane of Magic Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bradford, UK Age: 36 Posts: 335	Last software I used to write a CD/DVD was ImgBurn. Nero Burning ROM got shite after the bloat started creeping in. I'd say convert your NRGs to ISO or BIN/CUE and use them that way

16 February 2016, 15:37	#6
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 69 Posts: 7,843	It depends on how you use which version you are using, the Nero Burning version 6 for example was very light, then not all ISO (NRG) they can successfully convert, here also it depends on the software used. For example, the ISO images of CDs DK Karaoke, if you convert from NRG-To-ISO become normal audio CDs without graphics, ImgBurn or any other similar software, i do not believe can create ISO or burn this and other special formats. New Video made [ Show youtube player ]

16 February 2016, 18:03	#7
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 48 Posts: 25,803	Nero does suck, it was ancient times when Nero was good (or even the best). The real question is: does nrg spec exist?

16 February 2016, 19:28	#10
Mclane Old retro god. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northolt, West London Age: 61 Posts: 797	Nero, good lord, who uses that Neanderthal rubbish, as said, Imgburn is by far the most useful bit of software out there for burning AND its free (beware the attempts to give you adware rubbish tho). Mind you, I've not burnt a disk in a year and a half. As for a new format, please, lets keep it ISO friendly..

16 February 2016, 21:00	#14
SkulleateR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Germany Posts: 256	If you still use Nero ... just use NRG2ISO to make those images to work in WinUAE

16 February 2016, 21:33	#17
ma693541 Computer Wizard Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ramberg/Norway Posts: 926	Try to use/burn a Multi-Session CD that both contains Linux-68K and the rest Amiga data. I have uploaded some AmigActive CD's as NRG image file's because at that time only Nero Burning Rom could make a proper image file of both. If you had Autorun activated on your PC, the machine would only read the Linux-68K session and that would give you a blue crash screen on Windows XP. So if someone could convert the AmigaActive, feel free to do so.

16 February 2016, 22:12	#19
SkulleateR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Germany Posts: 256	Errr .... basically NRG and ISO Images are the same, NRG is just using a different header ...

16 February 2016, 22:17	#20
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 48 Posts: 25,803	No.

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