English Amiga Board


Go Back   English Amiga Board > Main > Amiga scene

 
 
Thread Tools
Old 29 August 2015, 23:39   #1
DrBong
HOL / AMR Team Member

DrBong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,210
Hooooo Did you know about.....Powerplay (piss-poor Atari ST port) vs Powerplay (Enhanced)??

Oki doke peeps, so did ya know about the two versions of Powerplay?!

If not, then all is revealed in the all new, all singin', all dancin' split of HOL entries for Powerplay - the original Atari ST port (released in '87, DOS format) and the enhanced Amiga version (released in '88, NDOS format).

http://hol.abime.net/6118 <--------- Powerplay (original Atari ST port)

http://hol.abime.net/1128 <--------- Powerplay (Enhanced)


Dunno about you, but the enhanced version is more fun to play than the original release. The trouble is......they could've done so much better with the enhancements.

At the very least, the character graphics & animation could've been far better in-game (consider that Battle Chess was also released in 1988!).
Additionally, how hard would it have been to have commissioned someone to produce a menacing, forboding soundtrack befitting of the Herculean task of defeating the Greek Gods in the ultimate battle of knowledge and wits!
Finally, why remove the quiz question editor from the original release? If it was as poor and confusing to use as Arcana claimed, why didn't they just simply improve it like they did the graphics (or just leave it in as is, if they really couldn't be bothered)??

Don't get me wrong - Powerplay is still fun to play if you like quiz games, but it could've been a damn sight better.....not to mention it was damn good to get those few grumbles off my chest!

Now down to some real business in this post. Has anyone got a Spanish version of the original DOS release of Powerplay published in 1987?
Also, has anyone got any WHDLoad versions of the original 1987 DOS release?? Any or all language versions would be welcome!

EDIT: There are a few Spanish releases in TOSEC (one labelled from 1987 even!), but they're all NDOS releases of Powerplay (Enhanced) from 1988.

Last edited by DrBong; 01 September 2015 at 20:36. Reason: Added another request
DrBong is offline  
AdSense AdSense  
Old 30 August 2015, 22:42   #2
DrBong
HOL / AMR Team Member

DrBong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,210
I've managed to fill part of my own upload requests here! Here goes:

(a) Find the WHDLoad version of the original 1987 DOS release in English in the Zone. I don't think it's available elsewhere as I was only able to turn up the French and German versions in the usual places (e.g. EAB FTP site, WHDownload etc).

Unfortunately, I think the slave needs an update as all 3 language versions locked up regularly at specific points in the game on my A1200/030 under WHDLoad 18.1.

(b) Find an ADF of the original 1987 DOS release in English in the Zone too. There's a cracked version in TOSEC by Delta Force (DF), but the ADF I've upped is from an original boxed copy and avoids having to go through the lame cracktro of the DF version.

Both are in the Zone. Enjoy!

BTW I'm still looking for the Spanish DOS version of Powerplay released in '87 (ADF, WHDLoad or whatever), if such a version was ever published. The credits in-game suggest that it does exist, but the Spanish version was published by MCM rather than Arcana.......so who knows!

Last edited by DrBong; 01 September 2015 at 20:34.
DrBong is offline  
Old 31 August 2015, 18:17   #3
emux
Registered User

 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: UK
Posts: 6
Many thanks for this.

I remember having both versions back in 1988, have got the originals somewhere. Played it a lot with friends and played the C64 version a lot before the Amiga version as well.
emux is offline  
Old 01 September 2015, 21:31   #4
DrBong
HOL / AMR Team Member

DrBong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,210
No worries and welcome to EAB! I never got to play Powerplay on the C64 before jumping ship to the Amiga in the late 80s.....but the ST/Amiga versions from 1987 look and play pretty similar for mine. Still quite fun, especially with friends, but they hardly take advantage of the power of the 16-bit machines.

The same probably applies to the enhanced Ami version released in late '88. If only the publisher had injected the character animation, humour and stereo sound of Battle Chess, they could've had a real winner on their hands. As it turned out, they released a couple more 8-bit style games for the Ami before closing their doors, with a bunch of planned releases going down the gurgler with them (Powerplay data disk, Mars Cops, Crater Wars and I, Android). Pity as all the games they released showed potential and Mars Cops was shaping up to be a 16-bit release with a bit of depth.
DrBong is offline  
Old 01 September 2015, 22:48   #5
jbenam
Italian Amiga Zealot

 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Italy
Age: 29
Posts: 1,226
It's great seeing you back in action, DrBong! Thanks for your efforts, much appreciated
jbenam is offline  
Old 02 September 2015, 19:16   #6
emux
Registered User

 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: UK
Posts: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrBong View Post
No worries and welcome to EAB! I never got to play Powerplay on the C64 before jumping ship to the Amiga in the late 80s.....but the ST/Amiga versions from 1987 look and play pretty similar for mine. Still quite fun, especially with friends, but they hardly take advantage of the power of the 16-bit machines.

The same probably applies to the enhanced Ami version released in late '88. If only the publisher had injected the character animation, humour and stereo sound of Battle Chess, they could've had a real winner on their hands. As it turned out, they released a couple more 8-bit style games for the Ami before closing their doors, with a bunch of planned releases going down the gurgler with them (Powerplay data disk, Mars Cops, Crater Wars and I, Android). Pity as all the games they released showed potential and Mars Cops was shaping up to be a 16-bit release with a bit of depth.
Thanks for the welcome .

Been lurking for a while but I had to thank you for putting these up in the zone.

I do remember Powerplay on the the Amiga as it so unusual to have two versions of the same game available in the late 80's.

I remember not being very impressed with the first version which was just a basic ST port but the second version was an improvement. It's a shame more companies didn't release enhanced Amiga versions back then!
emux is offline  
Old 04 September 2015, 11:02   #7
dirk_the_daring
Registered User

dirk_the_daring's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Alicante / Spain
Posts: 118
Dr Bong, as far I know, there isn't any Powerplay Spanish edition of the non-Enhaced version. At least this game was reviewed in april 89 by the "almost only" spanish game magazine first on the ST (Micromania nr 12), also in spanish language with the non enhaced version, and a just a month later there we got a second review for the Amiga version, and that review was about the enhaced one (Micromania nr 13).
Keep in mind some games arrive later to spain, and more if they have to be translated. So about the credits you talked, who knows, maybe the started to translate the early version but when they get the second they thought it was no sense to launch both or they refer to the Atari version.
dirk_the_daring is offline  
Old 04 September 2015, 21:18   #8
DrBong
HOL / AMR Team Member

DrBong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,210
Quote:
Originally Posted by emux View Post
I do remember Powerplay on the the Amiga as it so unusual to have two versions of the same game available in the late 80's.

I remember not being very impressed with the first version which was just a basic ST port but the second version was an improvement. It's a shame more companies didn't release enhanced Amiga versions back then!
Yeh, unfortunately a lot of game publishers in the early days probably didn't think it was worth paying a dedicated Amiga dev team if they were already investing money in an ST version. The ST was outstripping the Amiga in terms of sales on both the hardware and games software in Europe (and in the U.S. to a lesser extent). Easier just to get the ST coders to crank out a quick ST port for the Amiga conversion, or commission a lone Amiga coder to do a quick conversion on the cheap.

Arcana were a little different, though. They were a small homegrown outfit who developed all their early game releases in-house. Powerplay was one of them, but they bucked the trend and may well have been the first Ami publisher to release an enhanced update of a game.

Arcana obviously valued customer feedback and didn't want to alienate original purchasers of Powerplay when the enhanced version was released......so they offered them a free upgrade if they sent back the original release game disk. With one of my boxed copies, I actually received a letter Arcana sent to one of their customers who took advantage of a free upgrade and scanned it for HOL:

http://hol.abime.net/6118/miscshot


Interestingly, the letter was sent by their then-PR manager Emma March. Why is it interesting? Well, she might've had a big hand in the company going down the gurgler. It seems that she and Nick Tuckett (the main coder of Mars Cops) ran off together 2 weeks before Mars Cops was due for release! Classic!!

http://amr.abime.net/review_26469


Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk_the_daring View Post
Dr Bong, as far I know, there isn't any Powerplay Spanish edition of the non-Enhaced version. At least this game was reviewed in april 89 by the "almost only" spanish game magazine first on the ST (Micromania nr 12), also in spanish language with the non enhaced version, and a just a month later there we got a second review for the Amiga version, and that review was about the enhaced one (Micromania nr 13).
Keep in mind some games arrive later to spain, and more if they have to be translated. So about the credits you talked, who knows, maybe the started to translate the early version but when they get the second they thought it was no sense to launch both or they refer to the Atari version.
Muchas grazias Dirk! I suspected what happened was exactly what you describe, but I was hoping that there was a Spaniard like yourself on EAB who either bought the game or could tell me about any Spanish magazine reviews. I did do a web search for a Spanish game review or advertisement, but couldn't find any. Thanks once again!

Anyway, for now I will only list a Spanish release for the enhanced version of Powerplay in HOL. If by some miracle someone finds a Spanish version of the original release, then all the better......but, like you, I doubt it exists.

Last edited by DrBong; 10 September 2015 at 21:07.
DrBong is offline  
Old 04 September 2015, 23:11   #9
dirk_the_daring
Registered User

dirk_the_daring's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Alicante / Spain
Posts: 118
DrBong, yeah you can be quite sure, I have been looking for the info on the mags:
Micromania 11 April 89
Powerplay Atari ST review
+ Advert of the game distributed by MCM
Micromania 12 May 89
Powerplay Amstrad CPC review (here they said although the game was some years old, is now when the spanish translations are ready)
Micromania 13 June 89
Powerplay Amiga mini-review (were is said that the game "has use good of Amiga graphics and sound capabilities" (these mini-reviews were used just to tell you if the game was very similar or not to a previously version reviewed) an image of the enhanced version is shown)
+ A shop catalog with prices for ST and Amiga, and they are the same price (the standard price for MCM games with a hard plastic case package (quite good indeed)), the most important, no two versions found for the Amiga catalog.
+Interview with Max Taylor from Arcana, telling the distribution agreement with MCM.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Micromania_Segunda_Epoca_11.pdf - Adobe Reader 2015-09-04 21.48.42.jpg
Views:	76
Size:	84.7 KB
ID:	45319   Click image for larger version

Name:	Micromania_Segunda_Epoca_11.pdf - Adobe Reader 2015-09-04 21.49.12.png
Views:	76
Size:	245.5 KB
ID:	45320   Click image for larger version

Name:	Micromania_Segunda_Epoca_11.pdf - Adobe Reader 2015-09-04 21.47.13.jpg
Views:	80
Size:	335.4 KB
ID:	45321   Click image for larger version

Name:	Micromania_Segunda_Epoca_11.pdf - Adobe Reader 2015-09-04 21.47.45.jpg
Views:	67
Size:	275.1 KB
ID:	45322   Click image for larger version

Name:	Micromania_Segunda_Epoca_12.pdf - Adobe Reader 2015-09-04 21.25.49.png
Views:	71
Size:	476.1 KB
ID:	45323  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Micromania_Segunda_Epoca_13.pdf - Adobe Reader 2015-09-04 21.36.40.jpg
Views:	77
Size:	101.3 KB
ID:	45324   Click image for larger version

Name:	Micromania_Segunda_Epoca_13.pdf - Adobe Reader 2015-09-04 21.34.01.jpg
Views:	72
Size:	215.0 KB
ID:	45325   Click image for larger version

Name:	Micromania_Segunda_Epoca_13.pdf - Adobe Reader 2015-09-04 21.35.05.jpg
Views:	62
Size:	338.3 KB
ID:	45326  
dirk_the_daring is offline  
Old 04 September 2015, 23:14   #10
dirk_the_daring
Registered User

dirk_the_daring's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Alicante / Spain
Posts: 118
So, surely that version never published here, but as you said perhaps it existed, as the atari ST review also said that translation was done by arcana, not by the distributor. MCM was quite good and quality distributor and not very greedy (usually their games were cheaper even having better package than others like Erbe) so if they had a better version is sure they launched only that one.
We spend lots of afternoons playing this game, with an Amiga, with an Atari, and in that times, never heared about 2 different versions on amiga, just that Amiga and Atari had some notable diferences.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	SE-micro13.qxp - Micromania_Segunda_Epoca_13.pdf - Mozilla Firefox 2015-09-04 21.44.19.png
Views:	67
Size:	77.5 KB
ID:	45327   Click image for larger version

Name:	SE-micro13.qxp - Micromania_Segunda_Epoca_13.pdf - Mozilla Firefox 2015-09-04 21.45.04.png
Views:	67
Size:	135.8 KB
ID:	45328  

Last edited by dirk_the_daring; 05 September 2015 at 00:00.
dirk_the_daring is offline  
Old 15 September 2015, 18:12   #11
DrBong
HOL / AMR Team Member

DrBong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,210
@Dirk
Excellent work in digging out all that material from the Spanish review mags! You have now been immortalised in the HOL Contributors Hall of Fame for your efforts

Based on your info., Powerplay (Enhanced) has been updated and MCM is now listed as the publisher for the Spanish release "Powerplay: El Juego De Los Dioses".

I've also created separate HOL entries for the original releases of Powerplay in German and French:

- Powerplay: Das Spiel Der Götter <------ German release

- Powerplay: Le Jeu Des Dieux <------ French release
DrBong is offline  
AdSense AdSense  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Powerplay: The Game Of The Gods - Greek version alkis21 Games images which need to be WHDified 22 25 February 2014 15:04
Powerplay: The Game Of The Gods problem alkis21 project.WHDLoad 3 22 April 2013 00:10
Powerplay mai HOL data problems 0 30 June 2009 12:45
Standalone FRENCH version of Powerplay? andreas HOL data problems 0 17 January 2005 03:44
hard 2 find this game: powerplay.. Dasse request.Old Rare Games 2 23 November 2003 19:03

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 02:43.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Page generated in 0.18218 seconds with 12 queries