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Old 02 June 2015, 22:16   #1
Mack
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Looking for cheap Rawinput joyspads/sticks. Please test yours, instructions included.

Hello!

Im looking for cheap USB joypads or joysticks that support Rawinput. I would very much appreciate it if anyone can spare 5 minutes to test their hardware and help out. I explain below what I am trying to do.

How to test:

1) If you have multiple sticks/pads please test one at a time. Disconnect all other sticks/pads.

2) Start Winuae (please close if already open)

3) Check your winuaebootlog.txt file (C:\Users\Public\Documents\Amiga Files\WinUAE by default)

Scroll down to RAWINPUT if your stick/pad is Rawinput it should show something like this...

Code:
 
  
 RawInput enumeration..
RAWINPUT: found 12 devices
HID device check:
000C009D 2 068e/00f6 (4/1)
000C009D 000002A0 hid: '\\?\HID#VID_068E&PID_00F6#6&22f3441f&0&0000#{4d1e55b2-f16f-11cf-88cb-001111000030}'
 ******** 0 USB HID: 'CH FLIGHTSTICK PRO'
...and a whole load of data about it.

If its not Rawinput compatible it will show something like this...

Code:
 RawInput enumeration..
RAWINPUT: found 12 devices
Found USB HID device that requires calibration (079d/0201), disabling HID RAWINPUT support
...and further down the page something like this

Code:
 DirectInput enumeration.. Game controllers..
I={FDEE8F50-EC56-11E4-8001-444553540000} P={0201079D-0000-0000-0000-504944564944}
'USB  ADAPTOR' 'USB  ADAPTOR' 00010114 [Game controller]
4) Post up here if its Rawinput compatible or incompatible.

5)Thanks!

Why am I doing this?

Back in the day I used to have some great highly competitive games on Super Skidmark's on my A600. Lots of ragequits before they were fashionable!

What I am attempting to do is get 8 players on Super Skidmarks at the same time, using only 1 PC.

Using the incredible Winuae I have two emulated A1200's running connected via the virtual serial link as required for 8 player. To feed joysticks to an out of focus Winuae instance requires Rawinput joysticks. See the thread below:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=68529&page=2

Therefore I am looking to buy a total of 8 pads/sticks.

Thanks to anyone who can help.

Mack

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Old 03 June 2015, 09:31   #2
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This may be possible to fix easily.

DirectInput is a legacy feature that does not automatically get support for new features unless asked/reported/etc (and even then it may not happen)

All normal USB joysticks or pads will work, only problem case are analog joystick to USB adapters, USB adapter reports range from x to y but because adapter can't know real range of connected joystick, real returned range is usually much smaller and has an offset.
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Old 03 June 2015, 17:15   #3
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http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae.zip should have working "Disable game controllers" unticked without focus in DirectInput mode. Please confirm.
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Old 05 June 2015, 02:58   #4
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Thanks Toni!

I will test tomorrow. You give better support than paid products!
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Old 05 June 2015, 07:24   #5
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Hello!

What I am attempting to do is get 8 players on Super Skidmarks at the same time, using only 1 PC.

Using the incredible Winuae I have two emulated A1200's running connected via the virtual serial link as required for 8 player. To feed joysticks to an out of focus Winuae instance requires Rawinput joysticks. See the thread below:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=68529&page=2

Therefore I am looking to buy a total of 8 pads/sticks.

Thanks to anyone who can help.

Mack
Awesome, this reminds me I was able to play 2 player per.oxyd with Dosbox a while ago, using two PCs linked over wifi and emulated serial link. I wonder if your technique also works with Populous 2 and that multi-mouse emulation...
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Old 05 June 2015, 15:31   #6
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I have been testing the new fix. So far works exactly as intended, thanks Toni!

The new option to disable mouse/joystick autoswitching has also made it far easier to run two instances at the same time.

Im now going to buy up a bunch of cheapy eBay controllers and see if it can cope with so many simultaneous inputs.
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