SEGA Mega Drive, PC Engine & SNES

[AmiGer]

Hi, there.

I'm interested in everything concerning to these great consoles especially links to boards, game lists/reviews, roms and emulators. Every response will be welcome...

BTW, I open a poll (my first, please help me admins, if I did something wrong):
Which console is the best ? Please answer why (e.g. best games etc.)...

Here are some of my links so far...

http://www.genesisproject.co.uk/
http://pcenginebible.roarvgm.com/
http://www.mega-drive.de/
http://go.to/gens

Thanks.

Sega MD is the coolest 16 bit console! I know very little about PC Engine, is it a 16 bit console?

Strangely enought I prefer Sega Master System the 8bit cosole over Sega Mega Drive

[AmiGer]

Look at http://www.roarvgm.com/systems/PCE/
Another nice link. It's a 16 Bit thing...

I remember I emulated it once and played Turrican. It wasn't as good as an Amiga though

[Djay]

SEGA was cool... had more games

NINTENDO was more advanced... a small selection of great games

PC Engine.. never had one!!!

[AmiGer]

What about Turrican on MD, is it better than the AMIGA-Version ?

Look at this:
http://www.genesisproject.co.uk/Genesis/T/Turrican.html

[AmiGer]

Originally posted by Djay
NINTENDO was more advanced... a small selection of great games

Do you remember which games this were... ?

[RetroMan]

I voted for the PCE, on the hardware side, it was the most advaned console of these three and the games are great

Sadly enough it had not been such successfull as the two others, but that´s cause it´s market was mainly in Japan

[maddog]

The best console is....... CD32

Actually I selected Genesis, because SEGA was more influential in the arcades than the other manufactures, and they made followups for some of thier games on the Genesis only (Wonderboy and Golden Axe come to mind)

Originally posted by AmiGer
What about Turrican on MD, is it better than the AMIGA-Version ?

Mega Turrican on the Genesis is the basically the same as the Amiga Turrican 3, but the music is quite as good IMHO.

Most people seem to overlook the fact that there was also Super Turrican 1 & 2 on the SNES, which is fairly different from the Amiga games, and worthwhile playing if you've finished every other Turrican game (but play the Amiga ones first! )

[Ian]

Originally posted by RetroMan
I voted for the PCE, on the hardware side, it was the most advaned console of these three and the games are great

Are you sure? I thought the original PCE was only 8-bit. Another version was released much later in the PCE life, which might have been better, but I'm sure the original wasn't as good as the SNES technically (GFX and Sound wise).

Yes I know the SNES was technically only 8-bit too, but I can't be bothered editing my post to suit. The GFX and sound points still remain though

[Djay]

Do you remember which games this were... ?

f-zero
mario kart
streetfigher 2 turbo
super mario world
zelda

*true classix

amongst others...

[Kodoichi]

PC-Engine is only 8-bit.

I never had any of these, I was always pure Amiga , but the one I wanted the most was the Sega Megadrive for games like Sonic the Hedgehog. Still I don't regret for a minute having an Amiga over the consoles of the time, and I did have a console a bit later in the CD32

[RetroMan]

Originally posted by Ian
Are you sure?

Yes

I thought the original PCE was only 8-bit.

Yes and no The main CPU was 8-Bit and the gfx chip was 16-Bit so it was called a "16-Bit Console" But anyway, it belongs to the 16-Bit-Aera of Console Systems

[Ian]

Well, SNES has better GFX and sound, so it can't be that technically advanced

Anyway, AmiGer, if you like Jap style RPG's (Like me) the SNES is the ONLY console to have

Some of Square's finest work is on the SNES

[Shatterhand]

My fav is the MD, no doubt. It has the best games around.

The PCE is 8 bits, but it can nearly kick Mega-Drive ass. It's undoubtly the most advanced 8 bits system ever.

The SNES has only a small amount of good games (Unlike the Mega-Drive, that has LOTS of good games).

Does anyone know of a good site for PC Engine downloads (emulators and games) as it is one of the few systems that I am not emulating.
Also are the emulators easy to set-up?

[LordBug]

Am I the only one that's going to say it:

SNES - BEST.CONSOLE.EVER.

You can take that hedgehog and shove him.

[AmiGer]

According to your tips, to my experiences and some game reviews I began a list. Maybe you can complete it and I edit this post...

Games that are definitively worth to be played on the consoles:

-== PC Engine ==-

Aero Blasters
Bomberman
Bonk's Adventure
Bonk's Revenge
Bonk 3 - Bonk's Big Adventure
Exile 1+2 (CD) *
Final Match Tennis
Final Soldier
Formation Soccer Human Cup '90
Gate of Thunder (CD)
Gunhead
Image Fight 2 (CD) *
Jackie Chan
Lords of Thunder (CD) *
Mr. Heli
Nectaris
Parasol Stars
PC Gengin 1-3
Power League 2
Puzznic
Son Son 2
Splatterhouse
Street Fighter II Champion Edition
Super Darius (CD) *
Kyuukyoku Tiger (Tiger Heli ?)
Violent Soldier
World Court Tennis
Ys book 1-4 *


-== Mega Drive ==-

Aeroblasters
Aladdin
Alien Soldier
Alien Storm
Animaniacs
Arnold Palmer Tournament Golf
Ayrton Senna's Super Monaco GP 2
Bubsy 2
Championship Pro-AM
Chiki Chiki Boys
Chuck Rock
Contra Hard Corps
Desert Strike
Dynamite Headdy
ESWAT Cyber Police - City Under Siege
EA Hockey
Ecco
Elemental Master
Ex-Mutants
Fantastic Dizzy
FIFA (all)
F1 (all)
Gaiares
Gley Lancer
Golden Axe (all)
Gunstar Heroes
Gynoug
Hellfire
Herzog 2
James Bond
James Pond 1-3
Joe Montana ... (all)
John Madden Football (all)
Jungle Strike
Kawasaki Superbike Challenge
Kid Chameleon
Landstalker
Langrisser Hikari (Longraiser) 1+2
Legend Of Galahad, The
Lemmings (all)
Lunar (CD, all) *
Mario Lemieux Hockey
M.U.S.H.A. Aleste
Magic(al) Guy (Magical Taluluto Adventure)
Marble Madness
Master of Monsters
Mega Bomberman
Mega Turrican
Michael Jackson's Moonwalker
Mickey Mania
Mickey Mouse - Castle of Illusion
Mickey Mouse - World of Illusion
Micro Machines (all)
Might and Magic 2+3
NBA 95
NHLPA Hockey '93
Night Trap (CD) *
PGA Tour Golf (all)
Phantasy Star 2, 3, 4
Pitfall
Psycho Pinball
Quack Shot
Redzone
Revenge of Shinobi, The (Super Shinobi)
Road Rash
Rocket Knight Adventures
Rolling Thunder 2
Rolo to the Rescue
Shadow Dancer
Shaq Fu
Shining Force (all)
Shining in the Darkness
Silpheed (CD)
Snow Brothers
Sol-Deace
Son of Chuck (Chuck Rock 2)
Sonic (all)
Soulstar (CD) *
Street Fighter 2
Streets of Rage 1-3
Strider
Summer Challenge
Sunset Riders
Super Shinobi 2
Super Street Fighter 2
Sword of Vermilion
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles...
Thunderhawk (CD) *
Thunder Force (all)
Tiny Toon Adventures
Twin Cobra (Tiger Heli)
Ultimate Soccer
Vectorman
Warsong
Winter Challenge
Wonderboy 5 (Monster World 3)
Wonderboy 6 (Monster World 4)
World Cup Soccer
WWF Wrestlemania (all)
Yuyu Hakusho


-== SNES ==-

Actraiser 1 + 2
Adventures of Batman & Robin, The
Animaniacs
Axelay
Battletoads
Biometal
Blackhawk
Breath of Fire 1 & 2
Bubsy
Chester Cheetah
Chrono Trigger
Cybernator
Darius Twin
Desert Strike
Diddy's Kong Quest (Donkey Kong Country 2)
Diddy's Kong Quest (Donkey Kong Country 3)
Dinosaurs
Donkey Kong Country 1
Dungeon Master
E.V.O.
Earthbound
F-Zero
Final Fantasy (all)
Final Fight 1-3
Ghoul Patrol
Heberekes Popoon
Harley's Humongous Adventure
Illusion of Gaia
International Superstar Soccer Deluxe
Jimmy Connors Pro Tennis Tour
Kid Klown in Crazy Chase
Kiki Kaikai Ninja
Killer Instinct
Lamborghini
Legend
Legend of the Mystical Ninja, The
Legend of Zelda (all)
Lemmings (all)
Lost Vikings, The 1+2
Magical Quest, The
Michael Jordan: Chaos in the Windy City
Mickey Mania
NBA 95
NBA Give 'n go
Operation Logic Bomb
Out to Lunch
Parodius (all ?)
Pebble Beach Golf Links
Pilotwings
Pipe Dream
Pitfall
Pushover
Secret of Evermore
Secret of Mana, The
Shadowrun
Soul Blader
Spindizzy Worlds
Starfox
Street Fighter 2 (all)
Streetracer
Striker
Super Aleste
Super Bomberman (all)
Super Castlevania 4
Super Double Dragon
Super Dragon´s Lair (!?)
Super Dunkshot
Super Formation Soccer (all)
Super Ghouls'n Ghosts
Super Mario Kart
Super Mario World
Super Mario RPG
Super Off Road
Super Pang
Super Probotector (Super Contra)
Super Punch-Out
Super Shanghai
Super Star Wars
Super Star Wars - Empire Strikes Back
Super Star Wars - Return of the Jedi
Super SWIV
Super Troll Island
Super Turrican 1+2
Teenage Mutant ... Turtles in Time
Tetris 2
Tiny Toons
UniRally/UniRacers
Vortex
WWF Raw
WWF Royal Rumble
WWF Super Wrestlemania
Yoshi's Island

[Ian]

SNES:

Chrono Cross
Final Fantasy 3 to 6
Secret of Mana
secret of Evermore
Breath of Fire 1 & 2
Earthbound
Unirally
Super Mario RPG
Donkey Kong Country 1 to 3
WWF Royal Rumble
Street Fighter 2 (Numerous versions, the later the better)

Many, many more that I can't remember just now

Mega Drive:

-Phantasy Star 2 (final fantasy rival, just better storyline, less romantic idiotic crap etc..)
-Phantasy Star 3
-Phantasy Star 4
-Wonderboy 5
-Wonderboy 6 (Monster World 4)
-All the Sonic Games
-Moonwalker

But as I said best titles are Master System only like Wonderboy: The Dragon's Trap, Phantasy Star 1 and Ultima 4

[Shatterhand]

I won´t mention the obvious ones, or amiga conversions

Mega-Drive:

Gunstar Heroes
Alien Soldier
Dynamitte Headdy
M.U.S.H.A. (or Aleste , the same game)
Yuyu Hakusho (One of the best fighting games ever)
Moonwalker (Very cool game indeed, Burseg)
Quackshot
Contra Hard Corps
Kid Chameleon
Road Rash
Shining Force
Sunset Riders

Snes:

Out to Lunch
Cybernator
Super Punch-Out
Chrono Trigger (Not Chrono Cross, that's the Playstation sequel, Ian)
Parodius 2
Yoshi's Island
erm.......

PC-Engine:

Soldier Blade
Super Star Soldier
Wonderboy in Monster Land
R-Type

There are more I can't remember now... the PCE has an absurd amount of shmups, so if you like the genre, you will certainly do fine with a PCE .

[Ian]

Originally posted by Shatterhand
Chrono Trigger (Not Chrono Cross, that's the Playstation sequel, Ian)

My bad, they are exactly the same though at the beginning. You sure it's a sequel and not just a remake?

[RetroMan]

@Ian

Are you kidding ??? Chrono Cross is one of the best PSX RPG´s and has a COMPLETELY different story to Chrono Trigger No doubt, CCross is the Sequel to CTrigger

[Ian]

hmm, maybe I should play it for longer than 3 seconds then;-)

Did they release chrono trigger for PSX too? Maybe I have that, it's been too long since I DLed it.

[RetroMan]

Originally posted by Ian
Did they release chrono trigger for PSX too?

Uhmmmm no !

[Ian]

I will play it again tonight then, but it certainly looks very similar at the beginning to me

Quackshot

Almost forgot about that one.

/Me loves Donald Duck games!

[Dastardly]

I voted the SNES
I was never really that impressed by anything on the Megadrive apart from Sonic. I thought all th games seemed to have a very similar feel.
On the SNES though I realy enjoyed:

Zelda
Mario World
FZero
Secret of Mana
Killer Instinct
Mario Kart
Street Fighter 2
Super Probotector (I think it was called)

Mega Drive also has ... http://www.toaplan.com/zerowing/zerowing_story.html

[Shatterhand]

ALL YOUR BASE.......

I think Quackshot is the best game based on a disney character... athoulgh Master System version of Castle of Illusion is top notch too.

I am nearly sure Chrono Trigger got a PSX remake when Chrono Cross was released...

BTW, the game you call Unirally, Ian, it's probably Uniracers. And Final Fantasy sux, just doesnt sux as much as Breath of Fire.

I personally prefer the mega-drive version of street fighter 2 and Super Street Fighter 2 .

F-Zero is cool. Super Probotector is Contra 3 ?

[Ian]

More than likely is called Uniracers, I haven't touched my SNES roms for about 8 months

[Shadowfire]

Chrono Trigger got a port to the PSX in the form of a Square Chronology, which included a port of FF2-US.

PCE:
Ys book 1&2
Exile (very short but sweet)
Gate of Thunder
Lords of Thunder

The best PCE games were on CDRom.

[Djay]

UniRally = PAL
UniRacers = NTSC

@Dast... you didn't mention any Bitmap games.... shame on you

[LordBug]

Originally posted by Ian
Did they release chrono trigger for PSX too?

Originally posted by RetroMan
Uhmmmm no !

WRONG!

*SMACK*

NO COOKIE FOR YOU!

Say it with me now: Final Fantasy Chronicles. FF 4 and CTrigger. FOR PLAYSTATION ONE.

[Akira]

Let's remember the PC Engine is an 8bit console with a 16bit VDP

That makes it even more impressive, because it kicks the living shit ut of the md and snes.

You know where my vote went to. I just *love* me turboexpress

[AmiGer]

I've added your games and expanded the list with the following games:

Aero Blasters
Aladdin
Bomberman
Bonk's Revenge
Castle of Illusion
Castlevania 4
Desert Strike
E-Swat
FIFA International Soccer
Final Match Tennis
Golden Axe
Gynoug
Hellfire
Jungle Strike
Landstalker
PC Gengin
Puzznic
Shining in the Darkness
Starfox
Strider
Super Aleste
Super Bomberman
Super Contra
Super Darius
Super Dunkshot
Super Empire Strikes Back
Super Formation Soccer
Super Ghouls'n Ghosts
Super Mario Kart
Super Shinobi
Super Star Wars
Super Tiny Toons
The Magical Quest
The Secret of Mana
Thunder Force (all)
Tiny Toon Adventures
Warsong
World Court Tennis
World of Illusion

Find out on yourself where I've added them. Feel free to correct or enhance the list...

[Antiriad]

Even though im a home computer man, i always loved the Mega Drive and SNES, for me they are the ONLY consoles ive ever liked.

[Dastardly]

Originally posted by Djay

@Dast... you didn't mention any Bitmap games.... shame on you

I never owned any Bitmap Bros games for these machines as I always thought the Amiga versions were the best.

[Akira]

BitmapBros games on the consoles sucked. Do not bother with them.