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Old 09 January 2015, 10:58   #61
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That message has been there since the last down time, IIRC.

Thanks for confirming it's not just me, guys.
Ah, sorry.
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Old 15 February 2015, 00:44   #62
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Please spank me hard if I'm wrong but it looks like this situation still isn't resolved right?

It's really a pain because there are millions (well, not really but quite a few) sites in the Amiga community which point to back2roots and of course all fail.
It's as if nobody cared to maintain completely dead links to what's supposed to be a pretty central Amiga data repository. Weird.

What does he need to solve this domain name issue? Domains usually don't cost that much but I could understand why back2roots might be in high demand and thus much more expensive than the average site. I would gladly donate a bit if it could help him get rid of the issue once and for all.

(Also, that person should read their emails more often, letting a domain name expire requires quite some effort given how easy renewal is these days... )

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No need to spank me guys, I'll do it myself.

I just found I had missed this post:
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What I can say is, that BTTR is still alive. As ADz already mentioned http://back2roots.abime.net/ is the new address. Hippie2000 will also bring everything back online what's currently missing. So stay tuned!
However, this doesn't solve the issue that most Amiga related websites still point to the old completely obsolete domain.

A large number of Amiga sites mention back2roots on their pages as a reference so newcomers will be attracted to it only to end up on a completely broken site with no explanations, it's not exactly good publicity.

What can we do to change that?

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On EAB, the old links could be automatically updated to point to the new site (or some kind of addendum posted: "Admin note: this is a dead link, valid one now is ...").

As for other sites obviously their maintainers should be contacted but frankly if a newbie in the community like me does it the message is bound to be ignored with a "do your homework and go to the new site".

I guess some kind of organized request from EAB could help them understand that dead links are detrimental to Amiga awareness?

Last edited by Nekoniaow; 15 February 2015 at 01:12. Reason: I was full of fail but now I'm on the right track again. ;)
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Old 19 February 2015, 21:01   #63
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Hi people ! , any news ???



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Old 19 February 2015, 21:30   #64
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Patience....
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Old 20 February 2015, 04:03   #65
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Patience....
Does this mean EAB administrators are actually on the issue?
I wouldn't mind at least an acknowledgment of the problem.
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Old 05 March 2015, 00:56   #66
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I doubt this is going to be resolved and I can explain what likely happened (as I work for a domain registrar and hosting company):

Someone forgot to renew the domain. This can cause more than a few problems (ignoring that the site would go down) because when a domain expires, it goes into something called a "Redemption Period". This is a time where it's still registered to you, but doesn't work anymore. The major issue with this is that getting a domain back out of Redemption normally costs a lot of money (somewhere between 80 and 200 depending on the registrar) and then the renewal cost on top of that.

If you don't pay for the Redemption clearance then you have to wait out this period until the domain expires entirely and goes back on the open market. At this point, if the domain is popular, it'll immediately get snapped up by any of those nasty "domain squatters" who basically try and extort the domain back to you for at least 2000 or more (depending on how popular the domain was). If you're a business then you'd take them to court at this point or get a WIPO issued, but that's beyond what I'd expect the BTTR guys to go through as it's costly and potentially requires lawyers.


TL;DR: Domain expired, it'll cost lots of money to get it back. Chances are that won't happen so getting used to back2roots.abime.net is recommended.
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Old 05 April 2015, 22:22   #67
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Another month passing by...

Any news?
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I'm pretty sure there will be no news. The URL is http://back2roots.abime.net/News/ and the old domain is lost. That's pretty much it.
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Old 05 April 2015, 22:56   #69
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I'm pretty sure there will be no news. The URL is http://back2roots.abime.net/News/ and the old domain is lost. That's pretty much it.
The copy on back2roots.abime is not working though, as discussed earlier. Try to download anything, you'll end up with a blank page saying "broken transfer" or something like that.

In this state, the site isn't very useful.
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Ah my mistake, I thought it was working. Yeah, bit useless right now then.
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Old 29 October 2015, 01:28   #71
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Does anyone have any further info on BTTR ?

Noticed that http://back2roots.abime.net/ used to work but now that is dead too.
 
Old 09 November 2015, 03:23   #72
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Is there an ftp for downloading the bttr demos anywhere?
 
Old 09 November 2015, 09:15   #73
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Do not know if this will help but this is the best site I know for all things Amiga software, below is a link to the Demo section.

https://www.planetemu.net/roms/commodore-amiga-demos-3
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Old 22 May 2016, 15:05   #74
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This might help.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140209...ack2roots.org/

This is as far as it goes before the domian expired..

https://web.archive.org/web/20140213...ack2roots.org/

This is the best one I can get..

https://web.archive.org/web/20130327...ack2roots.org/

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Not sure what this is other than some strange archive site because lots of things I clicked on went nowhere
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This might help.
Unfortunately not. It's been mentioned before. Lots of the pages aren't indexed and none of the actual content will be available.
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Old 26 May 2016, 13:44   #78
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Does anyone have any further info on BTTR ?

Noticed that http://back2roots.abime.net/ used to work but now that is dead too.
I only setup a subdomain who target the IP address of BTTR server.
If it's no more working, we can think the BTTR server is now unplugged from the internet
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I only setup a subdomain who target the IP address of BTTR server.
If it's no more working, we can think the BTTR server is now unplugged from the internet
Sad sad sad, another part of the Amiga history disappears
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i was wondering, is there a mirror of the site stashed somewhere? and if so, what's the size of the entire repo?
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