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Old 28 December 2013, 20:06   #101
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The v16.9 is outdated for more and more games. Don't hold on old versions, only if a specific game won't work with newer WHDLoad versions. Get v17.2.
The problem is that all my whdload games works with version 16.9, while with 17.0 or newest version they don't work. And I'm talking of about more than 2000 games. So its a problem for me updating whdload.

One solution would be to have 2 different versions of whdload installed in the same HD. Is it possible?

Sorry for the off topic
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Old 28 December 2013, 20:08   #102
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they don't work ? What is your config, and how the crash or "don't work" is happening ?
what do you get ?
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Old 28 December 2013, 20:12   #103
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WHDload 17.0 was a bit unstable (timing problems), but newer versions are much better. I strongly suggest you to update to v17.2.

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One solution would be to have 2 different versions of whdload installed in the same HD. Is it possible?
Yes, but you have to set the older version manually into the game icon. Rename the older version to WHDLoad169 or something.
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I'll try the 17.2 version then, I'll let you know
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Old 28 December 2013, 20:37   #105
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And make sure that you've always the latest updated WHDLoad game versions.
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Old 28 December 2013, 20:41   #106
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I'll try the 17.2 version then, I'll let you know
And also make sure that you have a legal WHDLoad key.
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Old 29 December 2013, 02:19   #107
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And make sure that you've always the latest updated WHDLoad game versions.
But where can I find them? Whdownload has its last update dated on 2011

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And also make sure that you have a legal WHDLoad key.
I have it, don't worry

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Old 29 December 2013, 02:25   #108
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Omolungo, judging by your reply, if you're using a certain WHDLoad key that was downloaded from the net, it was blacklisted starting from 17.0.
Updating wont help you in this case...
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But where can I find them? Whdownload has its last update dated on 2011
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=61028
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Omolungo, judging by your reply, if you're using a certain WHDLoad key that was downloaded from the net, it was blacklisted starting from 17.0.
Updating wont help you in this case...
Thanks for the info, I didn't know it, but I acquired a legal WHDLoad key (registered with my own name) few years ago

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Thanks for the link, I'll check it
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Mentioned on the other thread, seems to be some SFX missing. When jumping one channel of music drops as if a sound effect is playing but nothing plays.

Also stuff like the score counting after a level finishes is missing, when you die etc.

Nothing major but certainly worth raising.

Game is growing on me day by day
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Old 29 December 2013, 16:39   #112
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Mentioned on the other thread, seems to be some SFX missing. When jumping one channel of music drops as if a sound effect is playing but nothing plays.

Also stuff like the score counting after a level finishes is missing, when you die etc.

Nothing major but certainly worth raising.

Game is growing on me day by day
Try disabling caches, I deliberately didn't disable them for faster depacking etc.
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Old 29 December 2013, 19:52   #113
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Galahad,

After reading an interview with you I was wondering... If you obtained data that you had to remaster and put on the disks, it would suggest that not a single disk with the full version of the game existed. Do you think that back in 1994 any of the Amiga magazines that reviewed the game really had it? Was it another hoax of Amiga magazines?
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Galahad,

After reading an interview with you I was wondering... If you obtained data that you had to remaster and put on the disks, it would suggest that not a single disk with the full version of the game existed. Do you think that back in 1994 any of the Amiga magazines that reviewed the game really had it? Was it another hoax of Amiga magazines?
Yes magazines did have the full game or near as could be. What people are forgetting is that System 3 don't have access to an A1200 anymore.

The disk system had nothing to do with John Twiddy, it was provided by Rob Northen, other than being able to use it, he had no knowledge of how it worked like a lot or programmers back in the day.

And most importantly, this was all 20 years ago.

Back in 1994 however, they would have had an A1200 and hard drive to master the game.
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Yes magazines did have the full game or near as could be.
Hmm... Then it seems even more impossible that for 20 years nobody spilled the beans and the "magazines' version" didn't leak... Not a single copy...
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Hmm... Then it seems even more impossible that for 20 years nobody spilled the beans and the "magazines' version" didn't leak... Not a single copy...
Obviously not impossible seeing as they never did.
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Old 29 December 2013, 22:37   #117
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Thank you very much, Galahad.
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Genuinely remarkable stuff going on here. Several hats off to all involved in *finally* liberating the most holy of all Amiga grails! I admit I've not yet played the game (having only just downloaded it) but whatever its critical reception, the very fact it's now out there is nothing short of incredible.

Aren't we lucky that EAB still remains such a hotbed of skilled, talented and downright obsessive Amiga experts? Yes, the numbers of which have understandably dwindled over the years (the knowledge required to unleash this particular beast now a long-distant memory for many of the Amiga's erstwhile once-elite) but thankfully the right people were in the right place at the right time, and that's all that matters!

It's also a pity though, given that the great Putty Squad debate has been raging for almost 20 years, that many who would have appreciated this amazing news have since fallen by the wayside. So many attempts have been made to liberate this presumed vapourware without result that I suspect this news won't reach any of the hundreds of ex-Amigans who have long since given up.

Perhaps some of you with long memories might recall the website I set up in 1997 called Lazarus - a determined labour of love on my part to archive commercial releases for our favourite machine. Although Putty Squad fell outside of our remit (Lazarus being focused on deleted software available circa roughly 86-93) we quickly became matey with Amiga Power stalwarts Jonathan Nash and Stuart Campbell who were intrigued by our site. Amiga Power, of course, carried the PS demo on one of their coverdisks.

There were rumblings for a while regarding their review copy. It was thought it might be located among the detritus following the magazine's closure. I made the decision that, should we be able to unearth the full game and somehow make it playable via UAE (this was 1997, remember) that I'd immediately make it available and damn the consequences. Sadly, it wasn't to be. Until now.

So, what's next? What's number 2 on the list of Amiga Most Wanted? ;-)
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Just wanted to say a massive thanks to all involved getting this off the ground. I am proud to be a member of this amazing community. Long live EAB!
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Old 30 December 2013, 12:38   #120
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