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Old 23 August 2012, 22:02   #181
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1time: Probably because I confirmed it on a1k.org. The ACA1220/1232 base board is equipped with Etron memory chips, and they are slower than the Winbond memory chips that I've used on ACA1231.

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Old 23 August 2012, 22:36   #182
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I thought it was a reasonable deduction from the clocks printed on the PCB. At 40MHz's it's going to be hard to push it past the ACA1230/56 if nothing else. I still want one for the memory tho. Decisions...
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Old 23 August 2012, 23:02   #183
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what does this mean in pure speed "mips"? 1230 vs 1232
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Old 24 August 2012, 06:05   #184
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(off-topic, but I think everyone should know)

Out of every credit card purchase, a percentage (up to 5%) goes to the credit card company - "the bank". In Europe, most credit cards work like the American "Debit cards" where you spend however much you're allowed to, and it's taken from your account with a monthly bill. However, they're starting to introduce the "American type credit card" in Europe as well, where you can (over)spend amount X, but you're only allowed to pay back a certain share every month. The rest is paid back in the following months and you pay lots of interest for that money (up to 18%).

In essence, you're feeding the banks if you use credit cards. Banks already have too much power. I know I won't make a significant difference by not using credit cards (not even having one any more), but who knows - if you guys all stop using credit cards and don't pay all those (hidden) fees any more, you might have more spare cash to buy Amiga goodies ;-)

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I stopped using all credit cards over 5 years ago. I have a Debit card, as you almost have to own at least one Credit, or Debit card to do some things today, like rent a hotel room, or make reservations for some things, plus many more that I can't think of at the moment. I don't know how much money I have saved in not paying any Interest to Credit card companies, but I am sure it is a significant amount.
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Old 24 August 2012, 14:23   #185
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crasbe: How do you know that it will be slower then 1231?
Jens explained, that the ACA1231 has special improvements with Burst-Cycles and the ACA1220 not.

You can see it from the business-side: why should he build a card, which has way more memory and more speed than an existing product? Nobudy would buy the ACA1231 anymore. Not quite intelligent, eh?
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Old 24 August 2012, 15:33   #186
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Well it all comes down to a price
If he builds a faster card, he can sell it for more money.
People who don't want to spend so much would still buy slower and cheaper cards.
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Old 24 August 2012, 19:38   #187
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I'm not so sure the ACA1231 will still be in production at the time he releases the ACA1232. As stated the later model also uses slower memory, most likely a cost reducing aspect, perhaps to try and contain costs, as the memory size doubled. The entire truth is for Jens to know, and the rest of us can only speculate.
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Old 28 August 2012, 21:37   #188
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Man this ACA620 is sounding better and better. Put me down for 2 of those. This means I'll have to get another Indivision ECS too.
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Old 28 August 2012, 23:14   #189
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Here is the ACA 620 / ACA 1220 on AmigaKit.com:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...x.php?cPath=43
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Here is the ACA 620 / ACA 1220 on AmigaKit.com:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...x.php?cPath=43
Can I buy it now? and will the item arrive the following day?
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Old 29 August 2012, 00:46   #191
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Looks like it's pre-order only, just pre ordered mine (ACA620)
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Thank you for your pre-order.
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Old 29 August 2012, 01:11   #193
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@Amigakit So you don't actually have any cards to sell? so why are you posting/advertising on this site about their availability, if you don't 'physical' have these cards to sell?

On a slightly different point: I noticed Jen has changed his original post on the price range from 70 odd euros to the new price of 89 euros!! Surprisingly 89 euros is roughly £71 odds!!
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Old 29 August 2012, 01:15   #194
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As the product description states on our webstore, we are now taking preorders for these cards. We started this process once Individual Computers confirmed that preordering could begin.
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Old 29 August 2012, 09:07   #195
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What a surprise; Steves already ordered one!

As for price, still a bargain!
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Old 29 August 2012, 09:17   #196
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On a slightly different point: I noticed Jen has changed his original post on the price range from 70 odd euros to the new price of 89 euros!! Surprisingly 89 euros is roughly £71 odds!!
Please read the original posting again: It describes different accelerator products that are in the making:

ACA500: 79,90 EUR
ACA1220: 89,90 EUR
ACA620: 99,90 EUR
BigRam+: 99,90 EUR
RTC upgrade for A1200 or ACA1220: 19,90 EUR

I have not edited any of the prices. Maybe a misunderstanding on your side?

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Old 29 August 2012, 11:28   #197
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Nice products

I've noticed that A500 cpu card has a 68000 cpu, could it be at least 68010?

Reason for that is WHDLoad, with 68010 quit/exit keys works.

I belive that 68010 is as easy to find than 68000? I might be wrong though.
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Old 29 August 2012, 11:30   #198
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I've noticed that A500 cpu card has a 68000 cpu, could it be at least 68010?

Reason for that is WHDLoad, with 68010 quit/exit keys works.

I belive that 68010 is as easy to find than 68000? I might be wrong though.
Motion seconded!
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What a surprise; Steves already ordered one!

As for price, still a bargain!
Indeed!

Just waiting for ACA500 now so I can get my name down for that!

I always support new Amiga Hardware
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Old 29 August 2012, 14:54   #200
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Reason for that is WHDLoad, with 68010 quit/exit keys works.

I belive that 68010 is as easy to find than 68000? I might be wrong though.
The CMOS 68000 is a lot easier to find at good prices. Further, the quit key is working on most of the titles even without a VBR-move. It's only a few titles that really need the VBR moved, and you will be able to use them if you decide to spice up your A500 with a small A1200 accelerator.

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