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Old 05 September 2012, 23:29   #261
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YAY!!! It's an Indi ECS
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Old 05 September 2012, 23:33   #262
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See, that's progress.
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Old 06 September 2012, 00:08   #263
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See, that's progress.
Send me one to test, PLEASE!!!
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Old 06 September 2012, 00:25   #264
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looking good . What about action replay sitting at $400000, can you get around the conflicts to get action replay 3 working ?
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Old 06 September 2012, 01:05   #265
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Wow, this is really awesome news!

Not for me personally, unfortunately, because I only use A1200s but this is still brilliant. Maybe you could do one for an A600 that goes in the trapdoor slot?

Are there any pictures of it actually attached to the motherboard? I don't see how it connects from looking at the pictures.
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Wow, this is really awesome news!

Not for me personally, unfortunately, because I only use A1200s but this is still brilliant. Maybe you could do one for an A600 that goes in the trapdoor slot?

Are there any pictures of it actually attached to the motherboard? I don't see how it connects from looking at the pictures.
2 rows of 32 pins on the left side that plug into the cpu socket
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Old 06 September 2012, 01:20   #267
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oh yes I see that on the prototype, but the real thing seems only to have contacts with no pins soldered in?

I didn't realise until looking it up just now exactly how limited the A600's trapdoor expansion slot was, it seems you have no access to CPU signals there oh well. Apparently accelerator cards had to piggy back the CPU, how they managed that on a surface-mount chip I don't know.
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Old 06 September 2012, 02:05   #268
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It's nice to see new HW for the old girl, i am going to forecast an upsurge in the sales of Indi ECS so buy now b4 they all gone (I did
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Old 06 September 2012, 15:30   #269
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in overall it's going to be more powerful than the Archimedes....
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Old 07 September 2012, 17:16   #270
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@Mr Vince,

Can you post a pdf of the actuual size of the board so i can see location of the cpu pin header

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Old 09 September 2012, 15:53   #271
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Epic!! Dibs on one for my A500 in the first production run.. pretty please ;-)
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Old 09 September 2012, 20:16   #272
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This is probably a dumb question, but I'm curious why some of these new accelerators are using derivatives of the old 68000 cpu vs 68030/68040/68060?

Is this a case where the 68000 is still in production and easily obtainable due to it's use in embedded systems, and the other CPU's are not being produced? Or, is it a case where implementation of the 32bit model cpu's increases the cost/complexity by a wide margin?
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Old 09 September 2012, 20:39   #273
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All the 680x0 series are internally 32 bit, it's only the external interface that differs. If anything, dropping down to 16 bit for 32 bit data access should be the more difficult!

Physical 68000s are still available new, I think. All the others are increasingly difficult to get hold of.
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Old 09 September 2012, 21:29   #274
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You can still purchase certified new 680x0 from various distributors, but the prices are very high. The 68EC060RC50 f.ex costs like €90 a piece.
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Old 10 September 2012, 01:06   #275
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You can still purchase certified new 680x0 from various distributors, but the prices are very high. The 68EC060RC50 f.ex costs like 90 a piece.
So 90 british pounds = 112 Euro.

The ACA500 would be 200 Euro ($256 usd) for an 060 based card. Sounds like a steal
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Old 10 September 2012, 09:48   #276
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So 90 british pounds = 112 Euro.
No, 90 Euro is most likely 90 Euro. :-)

Mind the '€' sign Leffmann uses... ;-)
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Old 10 September 2012, 10:10   #277
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Ah yes, but how much is that in euros
Anyway, be it 90 EUR or 90 EUR, it is still cheap. How much could the rest of the card cost, 200 EUR ? 300 ? Still ok. Of course, the know-how could be a bigger hurdle here. Not so easy to scrap together such a card.
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You can still purchase certified new 680x0 from various distributors, but the prices are very high. The 68EC060RC50 f.ex costs like 90 a piece.
I have seen them on Ebay used for 50 or so (but claimed tested and working), and Farnell has them listed for about 250... hmm...

Just found this:
http://www.plccenter.co.uk/Shop/FREE...EC060RC50/FNFP
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Yes but this is the EC, which has neither the MMU nor the (limited) FPU. This is the cheapest one at almost €100 which was my point - they're insanely expensive. If you want the 68060RC50 which has both MMU and FPU then you're looking at several hundreds of euros.
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I don't know if this is the official pre-order site, but I will definitely be buying one.
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