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Old 21 May 2012, 22:39   #1
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News from Natami - sort of

The Natami project is being reorganized. As far as I understand the lead developer will be doing the rest all by himself. It will probably have a new name, too.

http://amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2012-05-00041-EN.html

I can't decide whether this is good or bad news.
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Old 21 May 2012, 22:42   #2
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I can't decide whether this is good or bad news.
Well, at least the project hasn't been dropped altogether!
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Old 21 May 2012, 23:38   #3
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Apparently this is because too many anxious Amiga fanboys were pestering the team for progress updates and release dates. *sigh*

It's done when it's done, and that's good enough for me. I'm still looking forward to getting one when it finally is released. Curious about it being renamed, though.
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Old 27 May 2012, 16:05   #4
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are we there yet ....... indeed brett quality is always worth waiting for
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It's unlikely even for most professional hardware devs to develop a home computer in a couple of years*. And he has another job as his main work. The question now is whether it's realistic to expect of him to get this project finished at all. I think that's too much to expect of him, or anyone.

I hope he can team up with a like-minded professional hardware dev instead, so it becomes an accelerated finish rather than a drawn out one.

*That isn't an arm dev board in a plastic box
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http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=764250#post764250 ^_^

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It's unlikely even for most professional hardware devs to develop a home computer in a couple of years*. And he has another job as his main work. The question now is whether it's realistic to expect of him to get this project finished at all. I think that's too much to expect of him, or anyone.

I hope he can team up with a like-minded professional hardware dev instead, so it becomes an accelerated finish rather than a drawn out one.

*That isn't an arm dev board in a plastic box
These guys managed it http://acp.atari.org/

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These guys managed it http://acp.atari.org/

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The point was that he is now one guy. Not guys.
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It's unlikely even for most professional hardware devs to develop a home computer in a couple of years*. And he has another job as his main work. The question now is whether it's realistic to expect of him to get this project finished at all. I think that's too much to expect of him, or anyone.
It's not like he's starting from scratch - there are prototype boards with some of the Natami developers that have been demonstrated to work quite well.
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"Time frames" lol - when was it first supposed to be out?
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It's not like he's starting from scratch - there are prototype boards with some of the Natami developers that have been demonstrated to work quite well.
Just reading off the newspiece linked in topic. There, he said the others were talking about unrealistic release dates. The date I last heard was christmas (from the previous, September). I don't know how many were active devs/testers, but if they were three, then that means > 1.5 years of dedicated work while having a job. If they were more, it's years. If he already did almost all of the active development it's less, of course. Just saying it takes a lot.
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"Time frames" lol - when was it first supposed to be out?
Just check the thread title : http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=35395
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I'm happy he did this. It seemed to me, that all the non-Thomases of the team were constantly making promises on behalf of the actual Thomas, and that felt unfair.

If he ever finishes it, great! If he doesn't, ah well.
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Old 30 May 2012, 14:15   #15
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I'm happy he did this. It seemed to me, that all the non-Thomases of the team were constantly making promises on behalf of the actual Thomas, and that felt unfair.

If he ever finishes it, great! If he doesn't, ah well.
From now on I shall call anyone who issues incoherent claims of amiga vapourware a "non-thomas"

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I'm happy he did this. It seemed to me, that all the non-Thomases of the team were constantly making promises on behalf of the actual Thomas, and that felt unfair.

If he ever finishes it, great! If he doesn't, ah well.
Well said. Exactly my thoughts. And we all know that the non-Thomases are called Gunnar.
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@TCD sorry mate, bit dumb of me but yeah, ummm 4 years late and counting. Prolly best not to bet on this coming out ever eh?

I get the impression that these type of projects are very easy to start, fairly easy to make good progress on and VERY hard to finish off (not just thinking of Natami.)

I'll be honest and say I don't see the point anyway.. bah
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@TCD sorry mate, bit dumb of me but yeah, ummm 4 years late and counting. Prolly best not to bet on this coming out ever eh?
Sorry, didn't mean it that way

Still all the best for the project of course, but I have my doubts too... to put it mildly
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Another project which I awaited so hardly. Just like the Phoenix A1 and the A500++ mobo... still, I would like to buy a minimig, but these, these are something special, unlike the minimig...As an Amiga eunthiast I learnt how to wait, but these things are really disappointing.
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